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Google Founders on Hiring Trip to India
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| Oct 13, 3:18 PM
| S. SRINIVASAN
Posted on 10/14/2004 8:47:17 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: webstersII
Asking more than your market value seems to be a democrat specialty.
Look, I lost my IT job to 911. I have to scramble around picking up hourly work. It sucks. But the alternative seems to be having the government tell people where they are allowed to spend their money. I think they'd like that over at DU.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:14:32 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
To: webstersII
The horror! Thank the Lord we have folks like you who are here to tell the rest of us how much we should pay for computer programmers.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:14:44 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: Walkin Man
the elites want a two tiered socio-economic structure here - the wealthy and well connected with jobs in protected industries with high incomes, middle class people who are mostly government employees, and low paid service jobs and government handouts for everytone else.
what most of the "free trade" people do not understand - is that that socio-economic structure is a formula for a permanent Democratic majority in the US. The private sector middle class is the life blood of the Republican party; drive those people down the wage scale, or into government jobs or jobs funded by government spending (health care) - and they will vote Dem.
To: oceanview
Ah yes, hyperbole. Love that stuff. Let's try this one:
. . . and believe me, you find plenty of freepers who are perfectly willing to look the other way at a [controlled economy] if it means that their [wages are $2 higher] because the restaurant has a [Five Year Plan].
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:19:54 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: Walkin Man
they don't understand that. I argue with them on every thread. they don't understand the difference between a job lost due to competition, automation, a business gone bad, etc - and one not "lost", but sent offshore where someone else holds it.
To: Walkin Man
Page and Brin said they were visiting India looking for "extraordinary talented entrepreneurial people who want to make a big change in the world." Uh, oh. "make a big change in the world."
Time to get ready to short this pig.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:22:02 AM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: oceanview
Because we just know (feel, rather) that displaced jobs are lost forever. They just simply evaporate. That's why you see people selling pencils on every street corner.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:23:39 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: 1rudeboy
the service industry, government, health care, education - its pretty clear where those jobs have gone to. the free traders believe we can survive on those jobs and their respective wages alone - and lose manufacturing, and now the technology and white collar information related industries.
To: Walkin Man
With no health care, of course! I love dee outsourcing.
To: 1rudeboy
Here's what the answer is: If you place punitive taxes on U.S. companies that off-shore employees, then soon you will have no more U.S. companies.
There are two answers to that:
1) Companies that are interested in supporting American sales will not pull out of America. They survived and profited before outsourcing, and they will survive on American labor again (FYI, I firmly believe that the deliberate destruction of the American economy will be ended one day, either by legislation or rebellion. I have many bullets to fire before I will accept a third world standard of living in the name of "free trade").
2) If the companies pull out, I say good riddance. In a capitalist economy, new companies will spring up to fill the void. We just need to ensure that companies fleeing America aren't permitted to import their goods here anymore.
The outsourcing capitalists are playing a shell game with the American economy that, in the end, will cost everybody. To those of you who shug their shoulders and take such a "that's life" attitude toward the whole thing should read your history books...the people will not long tolerate a government that tells them to take thier oppression with a smile simply because it profits our corporate masters. Jefferson once said that all governments eventually become corrupt, and our own government is well down that road with the internationalists and Trotskyists invading the high offices and placing the good of the American people in a position secondary to their main goal...the imposition of a global economic and regulatory system under the thumb of the United States, in which a relatively small group of Americans will profit at the expense of their fellow Americans and the rest of the planet.
To: oceanview
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:32:57 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: js1138
"Asking more than your market value seems to be a democrat specialty. "
What's the market? The entire world?
The Founding Fathers didn't think so.
The only original taxes allowed (and encouraged) were Tarriffs. Free trade was envisioned to have limits. Sure, maybe you can put reasonable tarriffs on it and it still makes economic sense to get it done offshore but some people on FR seem to see free trade as completely open, no tarriffs allowed.
That's not how the Founding Fathers envisioned it.
To: Arthalion
You speak of Trotskyites, yet your reply could've been written by Trotsky himself.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:34:36 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: webstersII
So Jefferson going to war against the Barbary pirates never happened?
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:35:55 AM PDT
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1rudeboy
To: webstersII
The market is anywhere that goods and services are bought and sold. The Constitution gives the government permission to impose tarrifs, but it doesn't require them.
I don't particularly want the government in the business of setting prices, even if it would benefit me at the moment.
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:38:02 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
To: 1rudeboy
Hmmm. . . . am I missing something here?
What did Jefferson not wanting to pay tribute to the Barbary pirates have to do with Tarriffs?
To: js1138
"The Constitution gives the government permission to impose tarrifs, but it doesn't require them. "
As I said, they were encouraged. There were many discussions about tarriffs and the good/bad points of them. One reason in favor of them was to encourage trading with people here at home as opposed to abroad.
To: webstersII
indeed, the globalists only wish they could open up africa. that would really given them a good source of low cost labor - people working under threat of starvation or at gunpoint.
To: webstersII
Umm . . . something about the market being the entire world?
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posted on
10/14/2004 11:42:37 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: oceanview
what most of the "free trade" people do not understand - is that that socio-economic structure is a formula for a permanent Democratic majority in the US. The private sector middle class is the life blood of the Republican party; drive those people down the wage scale, or into government jobs or jobs funded by government spending (health care) - and they will vote Dem.
Yep. People vote Republican primarily because they support the ideas of self-sufficiency, hard work, and a "get the government out of my business" attitude. By destroying the private sector middle class with free trade you undermine the concept of economic independence and self sufficiency. You make people more dependent on government aid AND make those still employed fearful that their own jobs may be lost in the near future...both of which drive voters into the arms of the Democrats (keep in mind that a sickeningly large percentage of American billionaires and corporate CEO's are themselves Democrats, from Bill Gates to George Soros, the ranks of the rich are suprisingly liberal). Once the democrats have control of the country, our transition into an internationalist socialist state will be rather quick.
BTW, I'm a middle class conservative who has ALREADY been driven into a government job thanks to outsourcing. I can tell you that most new employees, no matter what their political persuasions were when hired, eventually end up voting Democrat simply to protect their jobs. I know MANY Republicans here at work who voted AGAINST the recall last year simply because they feared that a Republican governor would cut their jobs.
Free trade is an insidious virus that will destroy American conservatism.
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