Posted on 10/14/2004 8:47:17 AM PDT by Walkin Man
"Why would a company pay someone $80K a year when they can get the same production for $10K?"
The thing these nimnods haven't figured out is that they are transferring their Intellectual Property over there. They are handing over the Crown Jewels to a bunch of people who will go work somewhere else or may steal the IP and sell it to someone. This has happened with several other companies and the way the law is over there, no one ever seems to get punished. Plus, once they have sold it, it's gone forever.
Or suppose it doesn't get hijacked and sold to someone else. The people who are working for Google over there and being trained in the technology can go start their own company, using the proprietary, patented technology to become Google's competition.
This seems so obvious to me. Am I the only one that thinks this?
Yes I would.
As matter of fact I wish someone would point out to me the section of the US Constitution that gives an unelected by Americans foreign trade body the right to set or change American law? Who elected these Europeans to oversee United States trade practices??
The politicians of either party that signed away our freedoms to NAFTA and the WTO should have been impeached for treason, IMHO.
"In the first quarter of 2004, just 4,633 workers were laid off as a result of offshore outsourcing due to mass layoffsabout 2 percent of total mass job layoffs."
Yes, it's only 2% of the total but it's concentrated very heavily in just a few areas. That makes the impact more severe than if it were spread out across all areas.
"As matter of fact I wish someone would point out to me the section of the US Constitution that gives an unelected by Americans foreign trade body the right to set or change American law?"
Unfortunately when the Congress votes to sign a treaty there is the ability to sign our rights away in the process.
About the treason thing, maybe something can be done, but it wouldn't change status quo, now, would it? A lot is at stake here, and I can say with certainty nothing will or can be done to change the past.
And thats exactly what they have done, democrat and republican.
I wonder what the founding fathers would make of these Benedict Arnolds that signed away the freedom and the country they died for?
So we should all just march into the brave new world that the globalists have constructed for us eh?
Sadly that is probably what will happen. However, I don't believe the vast majority of Americans will like the kind of world that free traders will impose on them.
There are huge ramifications for moving your operations into a place where U.S. laws do not apply and the U.S. legal system does not operate.
We signed a treaty to that effect.
Relevant part of the Constitution:
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land;
"There are huge ramifications for moving your operations into a place where U.S. laws do not apply and the U.S. legal system does not operate."
These corporate guys are thinking they will get something for nothing.
Just ask Aramco and some other oil companies what happened to them in the 70's. They drilled wells and built refineries in Saudi Arabia using their US profits. Then the Saudis "nationalized" those plants and took the equipment.
Do these internet "geniuses" think they will escape the same treatment? Duh.
Recessions will do that . . . unless you have some specific areas in mind?
Google has been heavily advertising for programmers in the U.S. for at least a year. Any science or technical magazine will have a google ad.
I think the Founding Fathers were more concerned about those folks who formed "factions," and didn't understand the Constitution. [hint]
Shhh . . . don't you realize all those jobs are in India?
I have to assume they couldn't get enough talented programmers in the U.S.
My wife asked me why I didn't apply. I just had to hang my head. Google is cutting edge. They want advanced mathematicians and A.I. experts who can program or design programs.
"Recessions will do that . . . unless you have some specific areas in mind?"
You missed my point. Recessions usually affect many segments of the labor market and many industries, impacting most of the population. In contrast, the outsourcing we are seeing to India affects the high-tech sector almost exclusively. This concentrates the loss of jobs and technology in a much smaller segment, making it more difficult for those people to find jobs, whereas people not employed in those areas will not be affected much by this narrowly-focused impact.
Therefore, 2% doesn't seem like much unless it's concentrated in a small area. Then it has a much bigger impact.
More specifically, they couldn't get enough talented programmers for the salaries they were willing to pay in the U.S.
You had a shake-out in the industry. It's part of the business cycle. Rather, it is except for our resident protectionist hysterics.
and believe me, you find plenty of freepers who are perfectly willing to look the other way at illegal immigration if it means that their steak at the Outback is $2 cheaper because the restaurant has a mexican dishwasher.
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