Election determines fate of nation"

Ellensburg Daily Record (Ellensburg, Washington)... ^ | Wed 06 Oct 2004 | Mathew Manweller

[gunnygail]

The bottom line is that DIMS are cowards.

If sKerry slims his way into the WH, look for the American Civil War part two to begin unfolding.

[itslex71]

Bump

[RockinRight]

Why don't people get this? Why are there so many that hate Bush with an inexplicable intensity? We didn't hate Clinton the way they hate Bush!

[Rutles4Ever]

The fate of the nation could rest in this guy's hands?

[EdReform]

BTTT

[6SJ7]

If sKerry slims his way into the WH, look for the American Civil War part two to begin unfolding.

Strange. I've been having the very same thought. Civil War II. Not a very happy prospect.

[PigRigger]

I could not agree more with this man's assessment of what is at hand.

We are at a crossroads of history, as is another country at a crossroads in a despotic region called the Middle East.

The US and Iraq both must succeed if this great nation is to remain relevant in the pursuit of dictating the history that is to come.

If Kerry should win the White House come this November, we may be forever known as the generation that over saw the fall decline of the United States.

[Fast1]

Same here.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

***Once a nation that tamed a frontier, stood down the Nazis and stood upon the moon, we will announce to the world that bringing democracy to the Middle East is too big of a task for us. But more significantly, we will signal to future presidents that as voters, we are unwilling to tackle difficult challenges, preferring caution to boldness, embracing the mediocrity that has characterized other civilizations. The defeat of President Bush will send a chilling message to future presidents who may need to make difficult, yet unpopular decisions. America has always been a nation that rises to the demands of history regardless of the costs or appeal. If we turn away from that legacy, we turn away from who we are.***

Yes! If we don't stand now, the next time we have to defend ourselves, the enemy will have more resolve to fight.

[Nowhere Man]

If sKerry slims his way into the WH, look for the American Civil War part two to begin unfolding.

My fahter's been saying that since the 1970's, he figured it would have happened from 1985 to 1990, well he's at least half a generation off but htere are times I wonder if he was on to something. Back then, it was considered "tin foil hat" territory. Even the DUmmies over at Democratic Underground are talking about it. There are times I wonder if we have reached a point of irreconcilable differences and it is over but the fighting or peaceful breakup or whatever. I know I'm talking about this more and more and I still feel uncomfortable about it, but I cannot help these thoughts. Has the United States as we've known her "jumped the shark?" I know if that phrase existed in the 1970's, my father would have used it. Before I get slammer for saying "jumped the shark," I mean not for us, most of us here do believe in the old Republic and what it stood/stands for, maybe not as strong in some areas as in others and vice versa, let's face it, we are all different but we do believe that we need a good country with traditional policies and a strong defense and we cannot go wobbly.

I found this site, John Titor.com about a time traveller from 2036 who outfitted a 1967 Camaro (from the interior I thought it was a 1968 Pontiac LeMans, we had one, it reminded of that car) and went back to 1975 and 2000/2001. Even if you don't believe the time travel story, myswelf, I feel anything is possible but must be tested, still the story he tells about a possible civil war in the future. Myself, "John Titor" could be someone of a Conservative/Judeo-Christian/Traditionalist/Libertarian (tough to pin it down, there are elements of all in there) who is trying to get that message out in the story.

I feel it too, families and friend splitting up and so on. When I bring it up, many do think I'm just a Rambo wannabe. Not true, frankly, I'm scared to think about it. We are losing the country we believe it and many of us here hate to see that. FrankenKerry, if he gets in, we are screwed to put it in a nutshell. I could almost weep as I type this.

A don't know what the future holds, but I think if we keep President Bush in office, we stand a good chance of preserving what we have. Of course, the DUmmies might go ape, but at least we would have the upper hand.

[Desron13]

"Civil War II. Not a very happy prospect."

For fifty years, the left in this country has worked day and night through the media, courts, schools, universities, and government at all levels to destroy American Nationalism in the foolish belief that this would be the only way to bring on the "New World Order". In fact what they have actually accomplished is the fall of Western Civilisation and the possible beginning of the next Dark Age. Western Europe is already finished. By the end of this century it will be completely Islamitized. Civil War II will be the opening drama in what will come to be know as the Great Downfall. It may very well indeed come down to the outcome of this next election.

[Nowhere Man]

Why don't people get this? Why are there so many that hate Bush with an inexplicable intensity? We didn't hate Clinton the way they hate Bush!

Well, the way I see it is the only way they might be happy is if President Bush would nail himself to a cross, then again maybe that wouldn't be too good for them. I didn't wish that on Clinton at all, as long as he was out of office, I'd be happy.

[Desron13]

"Even the DUmmies over at Democratic Underground are talking about it."

I've noticed this to. I even noticed that one imbecile had enough brain cells left to point out the fact that it's the right that has all the guns. He seemed deeply depressed by this prospect.

[Nowhere Man]

For fifty years, the left in this country has worked day and night through the media, courts, schools, universities, and government at all levels to destroy American Nationalism in the foolish belief that this would be the only way to bring on the "New World Order". In fact what they have actually accomplished is the fall of Western Civilisation and the possible beginning of the next Dark Age. Western Europe is already finished. By the end of this century it will be completely Islamitized. Civil War II will be the opening drama in what will come to be know as the Great Downfall. It may very well indeed come down to the outcome of this next election.

Playing future historian, I can forsee when Western Europe is Islamic, there could be a two front war for the Russians, Eastern Europe, and the rest of the former USSR. They will have to face troops to the south AND west. Red China, I always felt they would be our next enemy in a cold war but if the Islamists do gain a foothold, they are just as fearful of them as we are so we might have an ally there, only time will tell if it is just for convenience or actually true. You might have a Russian/Red Chinese Bloc in Eurasia. The Indians will be a part of this too so they could be the third major player in Eurasia.

Civil War II or no, you might see a mass exodus of Europeans to the United States, more so if we incur any population losses, there will be more open land. I'm sure there are many Europeans just as miffed as we are at all of this but the PC crowd has taken a foothold in their countries, they are silenced through fear and so on.

The United States and Canada, well, depending what happens, you might have a weaken "rump USA" (or if we managed to hold together, USA) join with Russia/Red China/India/et al in the war against Islamo-Fascism. The Islamo-Fascists with the nuclear arsenals of the French and UK, God knows, they might build more, might launch a nuclear strike on the four major powers against them, and their allies, we fire back, and boom!

Well, just an abstract on some thoughts here. Timetable, I can't say, maybe 2010 onward. It's kind of iffy though, you cannot really assign a "when" although the "if" is more clear.

I think I got my scenario for my Morrow Project role playing game, too bad it could happen. B-P

[Toespi]

No, they are not cowards. They are socialists/communists who know that their years of planning and manipulation of media, government, education, entertainment and religion can become a reality in a little over three weeks. John Kerry and others have been implanted in our government waiting for their moment to rise up and this is it. Kerry is no accident.

[Toespi]

No, they are not cowards. They are socialists/communists who know that their years of planning and manipulation of media, government, education, entertainment and religion can become a reality in a little over three weeks. John Kerry and others have been implanted in our government waiting for their moment to rise up and this is it. Kerry is no accident.

[ProudEagle]

look for the American Civil War part two to begin unfolding.

You know, I've had that same thought rolling around in my mind for some time now. Maybe the leftists scum in this country need to prove their ideals are worth fighting for.

[Nowhere Man]

I've noticed this to. I even noticed that one imbecile had enough brain cells left to point out the fact that it's the right that has all the guns. He seemed deeply depressed by this prospect.

I saw that too, if we went toe to toe, I think most DUmmies in the fight would have a "life expectancy of a pizza in a college dorm room." Believe me, I used to deliver pizza, I know all about that. B-) At least he had enough brain cells left to notice that truth. I think mosto f the military would be on our side too. I work in a photo lab in a drug store while looking for better employment (aqt least I'm not sitting on my butt waiting for FrankenKerry to bring manna from Heaven), I work with a 20 year old lady who is married to a tank driver in the Army who might be sent to Iraq as soon as he's out of training. She and her husband are deathly scared of FrankenKerry getting in.

[Nowhere Man]

No, they are not cowards. They are socialists/communists who know that their years of planning and manipulation of media, government, education, entertainment and religion can become a reality in a little over three weeks. John Kerry and others have been implanted in our government waiting for their moment to rise up and this is it. Kerry is no accident.

I think Joe McCarthy was right, maybe a generation or two off, but as each day goes on, I'm convinced more and more that he was right.