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Gay-marriage divide cuts across party, racial lines in U.S.
The Wichita Eagle, KS ^ | October 10, 2004 | Lori Arantani

Posted on 10/10/2004 3:19:56 PM PDT by schaketo

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To: Kurt_D
And this proposed ban is actually a direct restriction on individual rights.

No it isn't. Marriage is a public act. It is a contract involving many obligations and priviledges between a man and a woman. It is given a special status, because it children need to grow up in stable families with a mother and a father. Up until the invention of modern contraception, heterosexual relations were likely to result in pregnancy. The institution of marriage ensured the children would be legitimate and have a father who would support them financially and emotionally.

Homosexual sex is not procreative, so there is no societal benefit in giving homosexual relationships the type of social and legal status that heterosexual marriages have. I a personally am opposed to adoption by homosexual couples, and I have a feeling there are large numbers of people who share that view. I guarantee if "gay marriages" are recognized, "gay married couples" will demand and get the "right" to adopt children in all states.

81 posted on 10/10/2004 11:50:06 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Always Right; GovernmentShrinker
You offer no facts but only lame insults. The few studeis that have been done show that these co-habitating couples who have children in these country are two to three times more likely split up than married couple. The family situation in these Scandanavian countries is an absolute mess thanks to the kind of godless society you would like to see.

Don't worry. In a few decades, the decendants of Islamic immigranst to Scandinavia will outnumber the native Scandinavian population in Scandinavia. They will abolish this nonsense.

82 posted on 10/10/2004 11:53:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Kurt_D

"And this proposed ban is actually a direct restriction on individual rights."

And what about the rights of little altar boys being raped by nasty closeted queers posing as holier than thou? Where are their rights?

" In any case, this whole situation is not worrying me too much because I am more concerned about foreign policy and the economy."

Agree, America shouldn't be bothered with a perverted minority group squealing about their sado masochism rights when the nation is at war with terrorists who would kill queers just as quickly as the rest of us.



86 posted on 10/11/2004 5:05:40 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Paleo Conservative

Are you comparing the Christians who founded, created, and populate this country to radical Islamics? I guess you must think we did a horrible job here. Maybe you need a new screen name to irrational Christian-fearing Libertarian.


87 posted on 10/11/2004 5:06:11 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right; GovernmentShrinker; Kurt_D
Are you comparing the Christians who founded, created, and populate this country to radical Islamics?

No. I was not talking about the US, and I was being sarcastic. Look at the sentence you wrote that I quoted. You wrote it. You were talking about how the left has screwed up Scandinavia by destroying the instiution of marriage. I am merely pointing out by simple mathematical logic what the the results of that policy will be in the not too distant future. Their destruction of the institution of marriage in Scandinavia is merely temporary.

As Muslim immgigrants who don't adhere to those ideas have large families, their population will increase while the native Scandinavian population will decrease. This is a mathematical certainty. Assuming the principle of "one man, one vote" eventually Muslims will dominate the voting populuation and will be able to impose their will on the Native Scandinavian population. The future belongs to the fecund.

88 posted on 10/11/2004 6:16:44 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: little jeremiah
Did you read about the homosexual lawyer who recently had a screaming fit in court because the word "homosexual" was used? He said it was demeaning and insulting, a "slur", and demanded that no one use it. There was an article about this on FR not too long ago.

Here it is: Tolerance a 'One-Way Street' to Homosexual Activists, Says Attorney.

89 posted on 10/11/2004 6:51:55 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

You know everything.

:-)


90 posted on 10/11/2004 7:08:02 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Marriage is the bedrock of human civilization. Destroy marriage, destroy human civilization.)
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To: little jeremiah
You know everything.

You're only saying that because it's true. ;-) But seriously, I had to search for that one as it wasn't in the database... but now is... filed under Miscellaneous.

91 posted on 10/11/2004 7:33:55 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Always Right

I have seen no evidence that Scandinavian families on the whole are any more of a "mess" than U.S. families. I don't believe the statistics about cohabiting couples being more likely to split up are comparable between the U.S. and Scandinavia. In the U.S., couples who are seriously committed to staying together and raising children together, are more likely to get married in the first place than in Scandinavia. The high U.S. split-up rate among never-married reflects their original lack of commitment to staying together, and is not a result of their lack of a government-issued marriage certificate.


92 posted on 10/11/2004 7:53:35 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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