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A VERY REAL CONSPIRACY
JB WILLIAMS.COM ^ | OCTOBER 7, 2004 | JB WILLIAMS

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:22:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Pahuanui

That was rather rude.


241 posted on 10/10/2004 3:16:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (The Mods demand sacrifice, your pennance shall be "UNNNGH!!")
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To: little jeremiah
I'm gonna buy more ammo, too. IF we can get through this election with legitimate results, our chances are great though the fight will still be on. Their lives--or at least their lives out of a jail cell--are still on the line and they're not going to fold.

OTOH the Burglar Berger criminal investigation is still on--just not being covered by the MSM. And he called somebody and I'm sure the FBI or somebody in DOJ knows who... The targets there are limited in number and all are critical and BIG targets.

It sure looks like the who-outed-Plame investigation has branched out into genuine national security areas, so much so that the NYTimes is frantically trying to stymie it after screeching for it's implementation. Jamie Gorelick is sweating a Fannie Mae investigation at least.

Those things and others like them fill me with confidence that we can beat them and they are TERRIFIED of that happening IF IF IF we get President Bush re-elected and keep the DOJ cooking on this stuff.

Bush originally gave the 'Toons a pass on just about everything and he puts up with an awful lot in order to maintain the BS "new tone". But he's not one to cave when he's being directly attacked. I'm not referring to all the crap he allowed to stand when it was verbal BS like comparing him to Hitler, calling him a liar, etc. In the end they look vicious and he looks like a nice guy and the new tone thingie works.

But they have tried to set him up with false testimony (9/11 Commission until Ashcroft blew them out of the water) and literally treasonous traps like that Plame/Wilson tried to spring. All can be traced back to the Jay Treason-Boy Rockefeller memo calling for Rats to use classified material to start an investigation of Bush in order to bring him down. The CBS crap was grade school next to that, though it was a very complex plot with many different players.

Bush is not a willing or easy victim. Now that they have literally gone for his throat, I think the gloves are off and we'll see that in his second term.

DOJ was NOT pushing the Peter Paul Aaron Tonkin case against the Clintons, but then all of a sudden they changed their minds. The Clintons filed to have it thrown out and were turned down. They have appealed, and I don't know if anything else has happened on it yet, but my point is that a sea-change has occured. They are no longer hands off in the Bush DOJ.

We just gotta keep it the BUSH DOJ.

242 posted on 10/10/2004 3:20:47 PM PDT by Sal
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To: LogicWings

I think there is a lot of fear in the idea of throwing away your vote to someone outside either of the two main parties. I know I don't want my vote to be thrown away. I might just as well stay home. Unfortunately, too many people have probably concluded the same thing.


243 posted on 10/10/2004 3:22:08 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Darksheare

Thanks. He is entitled to his opinion and he isn't the first person to be rude to me or others. I guess that's the price I pay for pinging the wrong people to the wrong subject matter.


244 posted on 10/10/2004 3:31:17 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Sal

Thanks for the details. Definitely encouraging. I hope to God Bush wins another term, and that he takes the gloves off.

And gets to choose some rational strict Constitutionalist Supreme Court justices.


245 posted on 10/10/2004 3:37:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Marriage is the bedrock of human civilization. Destroy marriage, destroy human civilization.)
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To: MistyCA

I understand.
Though he could've said a simple, "do not ping me to this type of subject" and that would have been easier, polite, and reflected better on him.
*chuckle*

Oh well, his loss!


246 posted on 10/10/2004 3:44:31 PM PDT by Darksheare (The Mods demand sacrifice, your pennance shall be "UNNNGH!!")
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Mega Ping!


247 posted on 10/10/2004 3:53:00 PM PDT by shezza (Hello, my name is shezza and I am a FReepaholic.)
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To: CHARLITE

evil democrat/Soros bump


248 posted on 10/10/2004 4:04:54 PM PDT by prophetic (What do u call someone who flip-flops so much? A Politician? No, a HYPOCRITE!!)
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To: Pahuanui

who peed in your ceral can't just ask to be removed, must you be so hurtful!

Geewhiz~!


249 posted on 10/10/2004 4:15:26 PM PDT by restornu (By faith Bush subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, and worked miracles.)
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To: Jack Black

" American's can't own real estate in Mexico "

Not true. Mexico changed their real estate law about 5 to 6 years ago. Might has well have since so many Americans and other foreignors with real money are retiring there. Lord knows the Mexican government and elites there never infused their comunities with employment are cash flow for the middle to poor class.


250 posted on 10/10/2004 4:18:15 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: MistyCA

"This was a young college graduate who was against capitalism because he thinks everyone deserves equality."

Of course naive pips like him NEVER carry their "equal" fair share of the labor. I've worked along side enough of these Mr. and Miss Know It All types and the only skill they have is blowing smoke out their backside, and that's only when they stand up long enough to emit gas.


251 posted on 10/10/2004 4:22:36 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Sal

"Then they plan to push Bush (and maybe us) to necessarily strong measures in response to their BS in the streets. Probably a replay of the 60s when they successfully "radicalized" a large portion of the population"


I say, don't be suckered into the gutters which they thrive in. Out manuever them in other ways. (you know what I mean)


252 posted on 10/10/2004 4:29:27 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha
<"If he is doing all that this post says -"

What do you mean,"if"? Do a little reading for yourself and you'll find out that this SOB has been behind a whole lot of evil. Of course he has a lot of useful idiots to help him.

253 posted on 10/10/2004 4:36:41 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: FesterUSMC; B4Ranch; Tailgunner Joe; George Frm Br00klyn Park; Carry_Okie

Alger Hiss the first Secretary General of the UN?

Do you have an independent verification of that? That would be one helluva talking point.


254 posted on 10/10/2004 4:47:05 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: bayourod

I think you are suffering from a Crainial/Rectal inversion.

Let's hope it's short term.


255 posted on 10/10/2004 4:51:42 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: sauropod
Alger Hiss was born in Baltimore on 11th November, 1904. Educated at John Hopkins University and Harvard Law School (1926-29) he worked for the Supreme Court Justice, Oliver Wendell Holmes, before serving in the departments of Agriculture, Justice and State, in the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Hiss also served as Roosevelt's adviser at the Yalta Conference in 1945. After working briefly as secretary-general of the United Nations, in 1949 Hiss became president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

I just found this overe here.. Hiss

256 posted on 10/10/2004 4:53:11 PM PDT by FesterUSMC ("If you don't have the hammer, you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather have the hammer!")
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To: hobson
This is the most depressing thread I have ever read.

Might as well add this then.
We are a lot further gone then most can realize or accept.

Garet Garrett 1938

There are those who still think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of Depression, singing songs to freedom.

There are those who have never ceased to say very earnestly, "Something is going to happen to the American form of government if we don't watch out." These were the innocent disarmers. Their trust was in words. They had forgotten their Aristotle. More than 2,000 years ago he wrote of what can happen within the form, when "one thing takes the place of another, so that the ancient laws will remain, while the power will be in the hands of those who have brought about revolution in the state."

Worse outwitted were those who kept trying to make sense of the New Deal from the point of view of all that was implicit in the American scheme, charging it therefore with contradiction, fallacy, economic ignorance, and general incompetence to govern.

But it could not be so embarrassed and all that line was wasted, because, in the first place, it never intended to make that kind of sense, and secondly, it took off from nothing that was implicit in the American scheme. It took off from a revolutionary base. The design was European. Regarded from the point of view of revolutionary technic it made perfect sense. Its meaning was revolutionary and it had no other. For what it meant to do it was from the beginning consistent in principle, resourceful, intelligent, masterly in workmanship, and it made not one mistake.

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Conclision.
So it was that a revolution took place within the form. Like the hagfish, the New Deal entered the old form and devoured its meaning from within. The revolutionaries were inside; the defenders were outside. A government that had been supported by the people and so controlled by the people became one that supported the people and so controlled them. Much of it is irreversible. That is true because habits of dependence are much easier to form than to break. Once the government, on ground of public policy, has assumed the responsibility to provide people with buying power when they are in want of it, or when they are unable to provide themselves with enough of it, according to a minimum proclaimed by government, it will never be the same again.

The Revolution Was

257 posted on 10/10/2004 4:55:28 PM PDT by KDD
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To: CHARLITE

We do know most of this. But it is nice to have it all in one place.


258 posted on 10/10/2004 4:56:23 PM PDT by meema
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To: sauropod
He was Secretary-General of the Founding Conference in 1945, and helped draft the Sovietesque UN Charter.

The United Nations was founded by and for communists/socialists. Sixteen U.S. officials who were instrumental in the formulation of the policies which led to the creation of the U.N. were later exposed in sworn testimony to be communist spies. The two most notorious were Alger Hiss, then acting director of the State Department's Office of Special Political Affairs in charge of all postwar planning and Secretary-General of the U.N. founding conference, and the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Harry Dexter White. Other high-level American communists who served as original U.N. delegates included Noel Field, Harold Glasser, Irving Kaplan, Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, Victor Perlo, Soloman Adler, Virginius Frank Coe, Lawrence Duggan, Abraham G. Silverman, William H. Taylor, William L. Ullman, John Carter Vincent, David Weintraub, and Henry Julian Wadleigh. In addition to the testimony of confessed spies Whittaker Chambers and Elizabeth Bentley, the recent release of the Venona Papers, which are U.S. government transcripts of intercepted transmissions of the communist spies and their Soviet handlers, and the opening of Soviet archives have all confirmed the communist ties of the sixteen "Americans" and others including Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, the "father of the atom bomb." Incredibly, those U.S. negotiators agreed to give the Soviets three votes in the General Assembly to our one. - LINK

259 posted on 10/10/2004 4:56:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: auggy

My parents look to CNN for "news" also.

It's amazing they are still as rational as they are, although that is fading...


260 posted on 10/10/2004 5:00:56 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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