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A VERY REAL CONSPIRACY
JB WILLIAMS.COM ^ | OCTOBER 7, 2004 | JB WILLIAMS

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:22:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: alrea
If an attorney does it or a bureaucrat, it's still socialism. Medicine is already nationalized.

Liability insurance and Medicare/Medicade long ago placed the means of production in the hands of the state by a greater percentage than the producers hold. Well over half of the payments for healthcare flow through government hands.

Thanks for that. Hadn't looked at it that way, but you are entirely correct. Medicine IS already nationalized. The idea that it isn't is silly. They are merely trying to consolidate complete control of the system. So obvious it is easily overlooked amongst the rhetoric.

181 posted on 10/10/2004 10:24:10 AM PDT by LogicWings
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To: steplock
"Blue Helmets" are to be considered as FOREIGN INVADERS and treated as such!


182 posted on 10/10/2004 10:25:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: ladyinred
We could have a few years ago, but they have already gained control of most institutions making such a thing as deporting this communist scum nearly impossible

Eventually, the communists either take over or get wiped out, a la Indonesia and Chile.

In 1965, in Indonesia, the rivers ran red with their blood for weeks.

183 posted on 10/10/2004 10:28:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: auggy
,"They sometimes felt it would be good, if the government just took care of us all. It might be good ,if we were Communists."

It is difficult to express the level of ignornance, laziness and selfishness that these statements reveal. People who believe things like this have no idea at all how the real world works. If the gov. took care of everybody, then who would the gov. tax to provide all those benefits? Such views are so profoundly stupid that they can only come from decades of keeping one's head deeply in the sand. (And not paying attention to what the government is doing to the other end.)

All you can do is hand them Fredric Bastiat's The Law - say "This is why you are wrong," and let it go at that. As for how many think this way, far, far too many.

184 posted on 10/10/2004 10:46:35 AM PDT by LogicWings
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To: rdb3

Please find a way to put the information in play...and be safe! <:O


185 posted on 10/10/2004 10:49:37 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: hedgetrimmer; MistyCA

What you say is key to understanding HERE AT FR if America truly even is to have a chance of survival...so those who allign themselves that way have always put me immediately on the skeptical side...


186 posted on 10/10/2004 10:52:54 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha
Why not take away his citizenship and deport him - as an enemy of this nation -

My feelings exactly

187 posted on 10/10/2004 10:56:50 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: MistyCA

Yep.
I actually had someone tell me “if you’re so smart, why aren’t you on TV?” I guess that proves that Rather et al are the smartest people around.


188 posted on 10/10/2004 11:07:30 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

BTTT


189 posted on 10/10/2004 11:11:03 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: CHARLITE

Does Morton Halperin have any connection to Mark Halperin, ABC News Political Director?


190 posted on 10/10/2004 11:16:21 AM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: MistyCA

How will the sage words of your granny avail here? Shake your ass, indeed. Sounds like something a pimp might say to his stable.


191 posted on 10/10/2004 11:18:35 AM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: katana; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; Joe Brower; ...

Katana,
There are those of us who watch for the warning signs of CWII. I've pinged them above. Care to be on the list? Huge, fairly obvious election fraud, supported by the Legacy Media whores could be the cause of the next shot heard round the world, as you suggest.


192 posted on 10/10/2004 11:27:06 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: MistyCA
Maybe we are being hosed from both sides.

You are starting to get the picture. The Repub's used to be split into 2 factions. There were your standard religious/social conservatives and then there were the "Country Club" republicans. These latter were what used to be called "mercantilists." These were the politicians that passed laws to benefit certain companies at the expense of others. Or, as Dubya did with steel, pass tariffs to protect American companies, which raises prices for the consumer.These 2 factions were pretty split and used to fight for control of the party.

Farm subsidies, milk subsidies, etc., all that federal money that goes to industry, are all part of the same system. A classic historical example are jitneys, which were small buses that would go around and pick people up and drop them off wherever they wanted to go, like a shared limo. The big city bus and trolley companies (which were privately owned in those days) didn't like the competition so they got them outlawed. Jitneys were too successful. (In just a matter of years they went from nothing to 47,000 jitneys.) They remain illegal to this day. In the few cities where they have been legalized, one in Colorado I think, they have been extraordinarily successful. The whole battle over "public transit" with "light rail" and Bus Rapid Transit systems and all that is the result of over regulation of taxis and outlawing jitneys. All to protect certain unions and companies.

In 1980 Ronald Reagan managed to join the religious/social conservatives and Country Club Republicans into single party for the first time. This brought in the conservative "Reagan Democrats" who couldn't stomach the leftward drift of the Dems. This is the Repubs as we have them today. The Dems still remember and use the rhetoric of the old Mercantilistic system, which is why the cries of "Halliburton, Halliburton" and to a certain extent it is true. Reagan's Secretary of State George Shultz had a revolving door between goverment and Bechtel Corp.

The "dirty little secret" of business is this "mercantilist" faction that uses the system to exclude competition and get corporate welfare. The top 10 major Ag corporations get 75% of the billions in farm subsidies that are supposed to support the "small farmer." And both parties are in collusion to support it. Which is why, when you ask "Why doesn't the GOP . . .do whatever? " the GOP doesn't act to stop many of things that you think they would. They are part of problem in many ways.

Another example is how federal spending has literally shot through the roof under Dubya. Ronald Reagan vetoed some 43 or so bills his first term, and Dubya ain't vetoed a single one yet. I can't tell you how disappointing this is.

This is where the Libertarian Party should come in and play a part but they focus way too much on the Drug War and prostitution, and thereby lose all credibility.

The problem is, how much worse things would be under Kerry and the Rats. There is really no choice on who to vote for.

193 posted on 10/10/2004 11:29:57 AM PDT by LogicWings
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To: Axiom Nine; GOP_Thug_Mom

ping


194 posted on 10/10/2004 11:32:52 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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To: CHARLITE

Bump.


195 posted on 10/10/2004 11:35:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Marriage is the bedrock of human civilization. Destroy marriage, destroy human civilization.)
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To: SunnySide
Real estate is to remain in the ownership of legal U.S. citizens.

Wish it were so. American's can't own a real estate in Mexico but there are not limits on ownership of property in California (or other states, as far as I know). It was common in the 1980s and 1990s for Hong Kong Chinese to buy houses with cash on vacations in the USA. They often sent a family member (eldest son) to perpetual school in the USA and had them live in the house. Many citizens wanting to buy in both LA and the Bay Area lost out to foreign "all cash" buyers from all over the world. Go to cities like Monterey Park, CA or Cupertino and you will be amazed by the success of the Asian Invasion.

196 posted on 10/10/2004 11:37:11 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: numberonepal
Doesn anyone know wherethese election "observers will be on Nov 2. I would love love love to see them FReeped to the nthe degree.

I don't think normal Freeping is near enough. Arrest would be ideal. If they show their poweder blue heads in some counties the Sherrif might just arrest them for interference in a lawful election.

I consider them to be part of the invasion, not sure how I would react to them. We need to defend our country.

197 posted on 10/10/2004 11:40:16 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: ApesForEvolution
BTW, does anyone know if pediatricians are required to ask children if their parents own firearms? TIA for the answer.

It is not a legal requirement, but it's promoted as a "best practice" by various Communist doctors associations. My doctor has such questions on her new patient forms. I gave her a piece of my mind about that and I think the new forms don't have them.

198 posted on 10/10/2004 11:46:52 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Thank you Jack...I find it amazing that our neighbors are willing to participate in the assault of our RKBA.


199 posted on 10/10/2004 11:52:49 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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200 BTTT


200 posted on 10/10/2004 11:57:46 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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