Posted on 10/09/2004 9:22:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Liability insurance and Medicare/Medicade long ago placed the means of production in the hands of the state by a greater percentage than the producers hold. Well over half of the payments for healthcare flow through government hands.
Thanks for that. Hadn't looked at it that way, but you are entirely correct. Medicine IS already nationalized. The idea that it isn't is silly. They are merely trying to consolidate complete control of the system. So obvious it is easily overlooked amongst the rhetoric.
Eventually, the communists either take over or get wiped out, a la Indonesia and Chile.
In 1965, in Indonesia, the rivers ran red with their blood for weeks.
It is difficult to express the level of ignornance, laziness and selfishness that these statements reveal. People who believe things like this have no idea at all how the real world works. If the gov. took care of everybody, then who would the gov. tax to provide all those benefits? Such views are so profoundly stupid that they can only come from decades of keeping one's head deeply in the sand. (And not paying attention to what the government is doing to the other end.)
All you can do is hand them Fredric Bastiat's The Law - say "This is why you are wrong," and let it go at that. As for how many think this way, far, far too many.
Please find a way to put the information in play...and be safe! <:O
What you say is key to understanding HERE AT FR if America truly even is to have a chance of survival...so those who allign themselves that way have always put me immediately on the skeptical side...
My feelings exactly
Yep.
I actually had someone tell me if youre so smart, why arent you on TV? I guess that proves that Rather et al are the smartest people around.
BTTT
Does Morton Halperin have any connection to Mark Halperin, ABC News Political Director?
How will the sage words of your granny avail here? Shake your ass, indeed. Sounds like something a pimp might say to his stable.
Katana,
There are those of us who watch for the warning signs of CWII. I've pinged them above. Care to be on the list? Huge, fairly obvious election fraud, supported by the Legacy Media whores could be the cause of the next shot heard round the world, as you suggest.
You are starting to get the picture. The Repub's used to be split into 2 factions. There were your standard religious/social conservatives and then there were the "Country Club" republicans. These latter were what used to be called "mercantilists." These were the politicians that passed laws to benefit certain companies at the expense of others. Or, as Dubya did with steel, pass tariffs to protect American companies, which raises prices for the consumer.These 2 factions were pretty split and used to fight for control of the party.
Farm subsidies, milk subsidies, etc., all that federal money that goes to industry, are all part of the same system. A classic historical example are jitneys, which were small buses that would go around and pick people up and drop them off wherever they wanted to go, like a shared limo. The big city bus and trolley companies (which were privately owned in those days) didn't like the competition so they got them outlawed. Jitneys were too successful. (In just a matter of years they went from nothing to 47,000 jitneys.) They remain illegal to this day. In the few cities where they have been legalized, one in Colorado I think, they have been extraordinarily successful. The whole battle over "public transit" with "light rail" and Bus Rapid Transit systems and all that is the result of over regulation of taxis and outlawing jitneys. All to protect certain unions and companies.
In 1980 Ronald Reagan managed to join the religious/social conservatives and Country Club Republicans into single party for the first time. This brought in the conservative "Reagan Democrats" who couldn't stomach the leftward drift of the Dems. This is the Repubs as we have them today. The Dems still remember and use the rhetoric of the old Mercantilistic system, which is why the cries of "Halliburton, Halliburton" and to a certain extent it is true. Reagan's Secretary of State George Shultz had a revolving door between goverment and Bechtel Corp.
The "dirty little secret" of business is this "mercantilist" faction that uses the system to exclude competition and get corporate welfare. The top 10 major Ag corporations get 75% of the billions in farm subsidies that are supposed to support the "small farmer." And both parties are in collusion to support it. Which is why, when you ask "Why doesn't the GOP . . .do whatever? " the GOP doesn't act to stop many of things that you think they would. They are part of problem in many ways.
Another example is how federal spending has literally shot through the roof under Dubya. Ronald Reagan vetoed some 43 or so bills his first term, and Dubya ain't vetoed a single one yet. I can't tell you how disappointing this is.
This is where the Libertarian Party should come in and play a part but they focus way too much on the Drug War and prostitution, and thereby lose all credibility.
The problem is, how much worse things would be under Kerry and the Rats. There is really no choice on who to vote for.
ping
Bump.
Wish it were so. American's can't own a real estate in Mexico but there are not limits on ownership of property in California (or other states, as far as I know). It was common in the 1980s and 1990s for Hong Kong Chinese to buy houses with cash on vacations in the USA. They often sent a family member (eldest son) to perpetual school in the USA and had them live in the house. Many citizens wanting to buy in both LA and the Bay Area lost out to foreign "all cash" buyers from all over the world. Go to cities like Monterey Park, CA or Cupertino and you will be amazed by the success of the Asian Invasion.
I don't think normal Freeping is near enough. Arrest would be ideal. If they show their poweder blue heads in some counties the Sherrif might just arrest them for interference in a lawful election.
I consider them to be part of the invasion, not sure how I would react to them. We need to defend our country.
It is not a legal requirement, but it's promoted as a "best practice" by various Communist doctors associations. My doctor has such questions on her new patient forms. I gave her a piece of my mind about that and I think the new forms don't have them.
Thank you Jack...I find it amazing that our neighbors are willing to participate in the assault of our RKBA.
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