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Alfred Kinsey: Liberator or Pervert?
The New York Times ^ | 10/3/04 | CALEB CRAIN

Posted on 10/03/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by MarlboroRed

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To: blanknoone
Saying something is Judeo-Christian (or Hellenic-Christian, if you like) means that you're falling back on thousands of years of reality and practice, means you revere the institutions and practices of the West that have emerged from the wisdom of ages. That these Western institutions have religious underpinning and that this religion is Christianity says a lot about the religion of Christianity and its ability to balance freedom and duty, something inherent in no other religion.

I agree entirely with you that we need to perserve the accomplishments of the founding fathers, but I see very little left to conserve. The mass of the public is nothing like the mass was back in the 18th century. We are anything but self-governing and self-sufficient. We are entirely dependent on centralized government. Were one of the founding father to arrive in the US today, they would cry and acknowledge that their revolution had failed.

21 posted on 10/03/2004 10:51:56 AM PDT by MarlboroRed
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To: MarlboroRed

On another thread last week I was chastised by some Freepers for not having read and internalized a treatise on pedophilia by a Canadian author, which of course minimized their threat to society when compared to those of other mentally ill Dx. When I did find time to read the article, I found it used Kinsey pedophilia statistics as it's baseline.

Kinsey research "stats" seem to alway minimize the effects of the perverts in our society in MHO and I believe your point should be well taken.


22 posted on 10/03/2004 11:03:34 AM PDT by tertiary01 (the FR poster comment heard around the world was not a vanity)
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To: MarlboroRed

I have a daughter in her late teens. From what she tells me, Kinsey has had a very strong influence on our society. The parents of many of the kids she knows put their sex life before their families. We have a moral rot within. In my opinion, if we don't show how people like Kinsey have distorted basic morality, we will have more problems that those caused by terrorists.


23 posted on 10/03/2004 11:10:06 AM PDT by Essie
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To: MarlboroRed

Sometimes it feels as if this society is catapulting into Hell. Kinsey was a horrifying psychopath who hired pedophiles to torture children---in the pursuit of his Josef Mengele style "research." How do people think he determined the "sexual response" of infants? Hollywood worships pedophiles: it is completely satanic. I will boycott any theater that shows this film.


24 posted on 10/03/2004 11:17:15 AM PDT by Innisfree
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To: MarlboroRed
I feel like I need to wash the computer screen after reading that - with heavy disinfectant.

Nonetheless, it needed to be posted.

25 posted on 10/03/2004 11:20:30 AM PDT by inquest (Judges are given the power to decide cases, not to decide law)
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To: MarlboroRed

Kinsey was indeed a pervert of the worst kind. And many of the people he interviewed for his "statistics" were criminal pederasts in prison for their crimes. He forgot to mention that when he wrote his book about the sexual behavior of Americans.

Kinsey was also responsible for the lie, widely accepted, that homosexuals make up about 10-12 percent of the population. A more accurate number would be about 2%.

Kinsey also wrote that almost everyone has had some homosexual experience in his life--a lie. And he argued that almost all married people at that time had been unfaithful to their marriages--also a lie.

Why was Kinsey so successful, almost singlehandedly bringing about the sexual revolution? Because the people at the levers of power in our society and in the news media were eager for precisely that.

Kinsey was backed big-time by the Rockefeller Foundation, which was also responsible for the Family Planning movement and the legalization of abortion. The power brokers were eager to transform our society and they used Kinsey, a sick man, as one of their instruments.


26 posted on 10/03/2004 11:20:55 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tertiary01
I'm not familiar with the discussion, but it does surprise me that there would be much debate about whether pedophilia was a significant threat to society compared to other deviancies.

The problem with using Kinsey's stats is that they are nothing of the sort. Kinsey, sick in his soul and perverted to the core (no doubt, miserable, likely suicidal), wanted desperately to feel normal, so he screams louder than anyone that we've been wrong for thousands of years, that what we thought was wrong sexually is actually not abnormal, we're all deviants, so let's not judge.

The sad thing about the pedophilia stats is that Kinsey lied that he'd interviewed numerous subjects, when, in fact, this King character cited in the article was his only source. Some scientific sampling.

27 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:44 AM PDT by MarlboroRed
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To: Restorer
Stuff like this is why I on bad days I sometimes feel like the Islamists have a point.

Don't give in. Their societies also breed Kinsey-like perversion (e.g., polygamy).

28 posted on 10/03/2004 11:25:58 AM PDT by inquest (Judges are given the power to decide cases, not to decide law)
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To: MarlboroRed

Kinsey was a pervert who successfully convinced the 'elite' media that the sexual preferences and practices of criminals, deviants and psycopaths were the norm. The media, Hollywood, anti-Christian and anti-American types LOVED it because it played to their own warped sense of themselves and what they wanted to believe about normal people trying to live thier lives. The myth-making continues - look at your Sunday newspaper and read about ABC's prime time soap - 'Desperate Housewives'. I have lived in the supposedly seething suburbs for over 30 years in multiple states and now NE - this series is a sick fantasy of Hollywood/New York writers.


29 posted on 10/03/2004 11:26:07 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: Restorer

I think you are right and I think he and they were and are preverts.


30 posted on 10/03/2004 11:31:32 AM PDT by lolhelp
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To: NYer; saradippity; sandyeggo
I'm bookmarking this for later reading but since this pervert's name comes up once and a while, thought you guys might want to either ping your list (NYer) or read it for more background info.

I believe Kinsey thinking is behind much of what ails us in society and also in several programs used by some dioceses.

31 posted on 10/03/2004 11:35:48 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: MarlboroRed
Of course, the creep is and always has been a pervert...this guy as a liberator?

..that soiled piece of paper/rag @ the end of a (Liberal) College education/career..."Sometimes a College degree is just a piece of paper"

33 posted on 10/03/2004 12:18:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: MarlboroRed
You misundestand me, or I poorly wrote what I wanted to say. Many people can't handle the truth, they would rather bury the God-given gift of discernment than to make any waves in their PC world. They allow all kinds of satan driven thinking to come into their world, with the thought that it really doesn't affect them. Screwtape has them all perfectly within his sight, and instilling doubt in their minds, blinds them from seeing the TRUTH.

FMCDH(BITS)

34 posted on 10/03/2004 2:05:54 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: MarlboroRed

But we can't ignore the likes of Kinsey as long as the talking heads continue to hawk their vile wares. On a slightly different note, I'm sure you saw that Brokaw and Jennings have circled their rickety wagons around Dan Rather? This is what the Left does for its own, and it's up to us to expose their litany of lies.


35 posted on 10/03/2004 2:10:57 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: MarlboroRed

I though Kinsey had been discredited years ago.


36 posted on 10/03/2004 2:13:28 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MarlboroRed
If Hollywoods fer it...............

............I'm agin it.

37 posted on 10/03/2004 2:16:15 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MarlboroRed; little jeremiah; scripter
BTTT


Selling sex in the U.S.A.: Why Hollywood is celebrating a sexual psychopath today

38 posted on 11/13/2004 9:59:43 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda/Moral Absolutes Ping.

I just read the whole article. Now I feel sick. I know that stuff, but having it brought to my conscious attention again is always nauseating.

If anyone thinks there isn't a culture war, and that one side is right and good and the other side is wrong and evil, either isn't paying any attention or likes the wrong side.

To exploit and destroy children is the height of evil. All those involved in Kinsey's "research" should have been either executed or done hard, and I mean hard, time.

I just can't say anything more.

Let me and Scripter know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


39 posted on 11/13/2004 10:11:49 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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In short, the guy was an absolute PIG.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 6:40:52 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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