Why do I have this feeling that Karl Rove will turn this negative into a positive by putting up an ad saying "You'd sigh and feel annoyed when your opponent is lying through his teeth." 
Posted on 09/30/2004 10:35:23 PM PDT by Pokey78
Yes, Bush missed many chances to counter Kerry's lies, but America is not made of pointy-heads and pencil-necks.
Bilateral talks with N Korea? after demanding multilateral approach to iraq?
Give Tehran nuclear fuel and wait to see if they make a bomb with it?
Pass a test before acting pre-emptively?
Collect all of Russia's loose nuke material? Doesn't Russia have a say in this?
Put the UN in charge of Iraq? After Food for Oil, are we seriously expected to allow the likes of France and the Sudan to take a commanding role over our troops?
Then there are the multitude of lies, lies, and damned lies.
Kerry spoke better, what he said was far far worse.
I wonder if the New York subway shutdown episode is also burned into his memory...???
The author couched that remark in terms of what Joe and Jane American -- folks who aren't political wonks like us -- would think after watching the debate. Remember, these are the people who have the attention span of puppies on crank. Hell, the most oft-repeated remark following the debate from the Man-on-the-Street is "Gee, Kerry didn't sound like a flip-flopper at all! And I like what he had to say!"
In other words, while you and I can see through Kerry's mumbo-jumbo, those who don't follow this race as closely will walk away with a more positive view of Kerry than Bush. And believe me, that is the last thing we need.
Kerry won debate points, Bush will win the election points by pointing out global test, GIVING Nuke fuel to Iran, yet spread of nuke proliferation is his biggest concern???? Bush has so much Ammo...
Kerry was a fast talking used car salesman and spoke AT voters. Bush was genuine and spoke TO voters. If Kerry had a position, I didn't hear it. He used LOTS of words and said VERY LITTLE! Lets see how much difference this makes in the polls next week shall we?
If it's any comfort to you, remember that Bush trounced Al Gore in ALL 3 DEBATES and Gore still won the popular vote and just missed winning the Presidency. The Prez did not look real sharp but he spoke from the heart. Kerry was definitely a polished pol. The damage tonight, trust me, was minimal.
"The mistake this guy makes is viewing the debate from a pointy-headed intellectual point of view, which he is."
I agree. Mr. Nordlinger appears to be thinking along the lines that 100 percent of people are undecided about who they are going to vote for, instead of the 20 percent or so, if we can believe the numbers, who are.
Listening to Kerry's lies and insults would make anyone annoyed.
I think Bush was very composed, that he didn't go over and wring Kerry's neck.
Right. I can't get past the first paragraph.
I agree. Before the next debate, he needs to take a power nap.
Bush's repetitious comments about Kerry's mixed message were well worth repeating. The average viewer has to be hit on the head with a hammer several times just to get the gist of what the speaker is trying to convey, and to remember it. This is perfect for the Oprah/Jerry audience.
Yes, it's 'seered' like Christmas carols in Cambodia.
Shoot the messenger!!!
I think Bush was very composed, that he didn't go over and wring Kerry's neck. ---- LOL!
Also, I was not sure I heard it right at the time, but people are repeating it. Kerry said, he would give Iran nuclear material? NUCLEAR MATERIAL, ie fuel for its reactor that could be reprocessed? Wow that may be a Bush commercial right there.
Were you watching the same debate as I was ? Name one memorable Kerry quote that made you feel safer tonight ?
Why do I have this feeling that Karl Rove will turn this negative into a positive by putting up an ad saying "You'd sigh and feel annoyed when your opponent is lying through his teeth."
But that's exactly the point. Because undecided voters aren't smart or informed enough to see how liberal Kerry is, Bush has to paint a very clear picture for them. Although he had some strong lines and clearly won on substance, Bush failed to paint a compelling overall picture of Kerry as unacceptably far-left on foreign policy. To do that, he needed to use Kerry's record,
which he barely did.
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