Prohibiting Pornography -- A Moral Imperative

Morality in Media ^ | 1984 | Paul J. McGeady

[ThinkDifferent]

Some people love their porn so much, they are willing to kill and die for it!

Um, you guys are the ones advocating violence against those who look at pictures you disapprove of.

[Tailgunner Joe]

That leaves it for the States to decide.

Uh-Oh. I'm not sure if tpaine will allow that. He tells me that all fifty state constitutions were rendered illegal by the Supremacy Clause.

[Robert_Paulson2]

I don't advocate theocracy.

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yes you do.
you just try very hard to not call it that.
but that is what it is.

God is NOT our government.
Our government is NOT God.
In his sovereignty, he has committed that authority in toto for now, to the will of secular mankind. not religion, not morals not even well intentioned faith.

religious morals and govnermental laws are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.
And using the government to codify and then enforce YOUR moral convictions on others, based on YOUR (or my) religious convictios is illegal. Even when they are right convictions.

the basis for law has to be NON RELIGIOUS or religion neutral. that's the end of it. And ridiculous and proven falsehoods about the affects you or your group of extremists think whathever YOU call pornography does whatever evil YOU think it does... won't turn into law either.
I would tell you to get over it.
But see clearly that you are obsessed over something that apparently affects your own life directly.
Perhaps you have had a problem in this area, I don't know, but I know that until Jesus returns, that is exactly how things will remain. Calling folks queers who don't agree with theocentric laws in a NON religious federal state, is not going to persuade anybody.

But know THIS:
Americans will never submit to sharia or any form of religious based laws, be they of the jewish, catholic, protestant or islamist variety.

never.


You won't win any victory with me by going on about it. Perhaps you should get active somewhere that your obsession might make a difference. Try out in front of your local porn shops.

not every body who disagrees with your "codify my morals" into law obsession, is a homosexual.
I suggest you take your 'crusade' against queers and perverts to them directly, instead of calling straight christians who disagree perverts.

you talk JUST like osami's followers.
you paint yourself as a nut by your extreme assertions.
So, I am done with you.

[tpaine]

Some in our group of FRiends can't even handle a bare breasted Lady of Justice. That should speak volumes.
Blackbird.

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tpaine Man, it's good to be reading something of substance again. Get's old with "Bush is Our Savior" and "Bush is the Demon Seed" threads.

This reminds me of the old days when FR had actual ideological discussions.
I like to look at and admire nude women. Guess I'm a pervert.
418 NVet


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This thread is starting to remind me of the old days when everybody flamed and I'm the one that got suspended.

Think I'll quit while I'm ahead. See yall later.

[Robert_Paulson2]

I have simply pointed out that the Constitution does not protect obscenity

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actually the constitution DOES protect things that I consider obscene. It's not my right to define, and interpret the constitution according to my moral convictions.

and if you download porn that is your business.
I don't.
so don't paint me with it.

[tacticalogic]

Uh-Oh. I'm not sure if tpaine will allow that. He tells me that all fifty state constitutions were rendered illegal by the Supremacy Clause.

RP tells me the original intent of the authors of the Constitution is rendered irrelevant by the Supreme Court, but I don't buy it.

[tpaine]

Joe wrote:

Uh-Oh. I'm not sure if tpaine will allow that.

He tells me that all fifty state constitutions were rendered illegal by the Supremacy Clause.

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Bull.

[Tailgunner Joe]

We will use force to protect our families, neighborhoods, and nation from the depradations of the profiteers of perversion.

[A Navy Vet]

"We will use force to protect our families, neighborhoods, and nation from the depradations of the profiteers of perversion."

So when's the march on the Playboy Mansion, and can I be point man?

[tacticalogic]

We will use force to protect our families, neighborhoods, and nation from the depradations of the profiteers of perversion.

Who gets to decide what's perversion?

[Robert_Paulson2]

We will use force to protect our families, neighborhoods, and nation from the depradations of the profiteers of perversion.

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I suggest you stay within the realm of legal enforcement measures or face the appropriate consequences for your actions.

threats of violence directed at freepers is not okay tj.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Your just another liberal demonizing Christianity.

I don't advocate any of that garbage you've accused me of liar.

All laws come from morality. Morality comes from God. I'm sorry your mommy and daddy didn't teach you right from wrong, but I don't have the time or patience to baby-sit a bunch of thirty-year old third-graders still looking at dirty pictures. Grow up.

You think my Christianity makes me the Taliban? Well I think your acquiescence to the perversion agenda is pretty gay. Straight Conservative men bringing up families want nothing to do with the kookery of your libertarian fringe ideology.

[longshadow]

Who gets to decide what's perversion?

Good point; I recall a Woody Allen movie in which the fictitious game show "What's My Perversion?" was part of the plot. It ended up with some Jewish guy who secretly lusted to eat pork chops while naked during Passover.

BTW, I wonder if it's safe to use the word "Woody" on this thread.

;-)

[Robert_Paulson2]

add 25-35 years and you might be close junior.

NO I don't think Christianity is taliban.
I think folks who want to codify their subjective interpretation of religious morality into laws for others who do not agree... talibanic.

and I do think YOU are.
and you threaten to do physical harm to those who would resist you in your effrots to do just that. You going to kill us all TJ? Even when we don't spend the time using porn you apparently think we do?

keeping up the threats is not smart joe.
not smart at all.
I am not libertarian.
I am republican.
Stop calling me gay and threatening other freepers.

[tacticalogic]

BTW, I wonder if it's safe to use the word "Woody" on this thread.

Only in a botanical context.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Are you aware that most conservatives take a "strict constructionist" view of the Constitution which suggests that the "original intent" should not have to be discerned in order to apply the plain language of the law?

tpaine knows how to get around that. He just defines words to mean what he wants them to (like "Republican form of Government"). The "plain language" of the law always supports his position because he wrote the dictionary!

[Tailgunner Joe]

Stop calling me the Taliban and stop suggesting that what happened to the Taliban should happen to me and the millions who agree with me.

[Robert_Paulson2]

We will use force to protect our families, neighborhoods, and nation from the depradations of the profiteers of perversion.

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stop threatening to kill and do violence against people who disagree with your extreme views...

[Robert_Paulson2]

stop acting like a sharia man who wants to kill all who offend your morality. stop saying you will...

and folks will maybe listen to SOME of what you have to say.