The Fog of War (The Belmont Club looks at NY Times statistics on Iraq)

The Belmont Club | September 28, 2004 | Wretchard

[68skylark]

How many thousands of stories have we had from the Times -- all of them trying to discourage and demoralize the public about the liberation of Iraq? We can count on them to make the case for failure each and every day.

The link is here: The Fog Of War

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Somewhere in my TV browsing , I heard that the basis of the word "attack" has now been changed. In a prior period this meant attacks on US or Coalition forces...now , however that has been revised to include attacks on Iraqi citizens and the new Iraqi Froces being trained!

I'm pinging many others to see if anyone can add more detail to my comment.

Results in a huge increase !!!!

Your media at work!

[Polybius]

How many thousands of stories have we had from the Times -- all of them trying to discourage and demoralize the public about the liberation of Iraq?

In 1944, it was the job of Joseph Goebbels' Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda to spin the war news in such as a way as to maximize the morale of America's enemies and to demoralize the American Home Front.

In 2004, that function has been taken over by the New York Times, CBS and the rest of the Liberal news media.

[68skylark]

You make a good point.

I think there's a myth that back in the good old days, we could count on the press to support the government in times of war. Actually, I think that was mostly true in WWII. Other conflicts sparked sharp debates and even hostility from large sectors of the people and press -- like the Revolution, the War of 1812, the War with Mexico, the Civil War (including the notorious "Copperheads"), the war in the Philippines, etc, etc, right up to Vietnam and the Gulf Wars.

So what he have today is nothing new. We just have to deal with dissent. On the positive side, both voters and historians have not been kind to people who simply dissent for the sake of dissent. Things don't turn out well for those people, and I don't think they'll turn out well this time. We'll know more on election day.

[USMCVet]

bump!

[blackie]

Your media at work ~ Bump!

[scory]

Wretchard strikes again!

For months now in newspapers and on radios and on the TV pundits, government officials and commenators have predicted a sharp rise in terror attacks in Iraq as our elections approach. For months it has been pointed out that the terrorists CANNOT DEFEAT us militarily and that their only hope is to demoralize the American people and so undermine the war effort that they will vote President Bush out of office. The corollary to this is of course that there will be media willing to go along with them in their efforts and report with the slant the islamofascist terrorists need to achieve their goal. The NYT and leftist media have no excuses given all the exposure given to the intentions of the islamofascists. They are knowingly giving support to our deadly enemies.

I can see no good reason to ever read, listen to or watch any of the leftist media.

[68skylark]

I can see no good reason to ever read, listen to or watch any of the leftist media.

I know where you're coming from, brother!

Most of the Times reporting about Iraq is just propaganda, IMHO. But they do have some great reporters also. Their reporter John Burns is one of my heroes, for the way he stood up to Saddam when people around him were not -- that guy has real courage, and his articles are great.

[rebel_yell2]

LOOK at the statistics: virtually ALL of the action is in Bagdhad.

Where are the NYSlimes reporters? virtually ALL the time in and around their Bagdhad hotels.

They need to get out more . . . .

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Myths" of Iraq Exposed! PING

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[Howlin]

Some guy on Fox who is in Iraq just said that the Iraqis are STILL lining up day after day to apply for the police jobs.

If the situation was so bad, why would they continue to do that?

[Soaring Feather]

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[christie]

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The media blows with the wind.

See "Connect the Dots . . . Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden"

http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html.
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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Some guy on Fox who is in Iraq just said that the Iraqis are STILL lining up day after day to apply for the police jobs.

That fact will not show up in the MSM!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[SunkenCiv]

Heh... no surprise there. And aren't attacks by homicidal mass murderers a good reason to stop fighting and turn over the world to them? ;')

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[BIGLOOK]

BZ Ping, Tonk and my thanks.

[windchime]

Bump!

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.