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Teen Suspended for Smoke Smell
WXIA-TV ATLANTA ^ | 9/27/2004 9:34:50 PM | Kay Flowers

Posted on 09/29/2004 5:28:16 AM PDT by closet freeper

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To: ClintonBeGone
There is no presumption of innocence in a due process case. You seem to be the only one trying to imply such a presumption exists.

Oh, THAT's what's wrong. You don't understand the context of all my replies! Check out Post 30, which is a reply to post 11, and it will frame everything for you.

I was attempting all along to rebut Alia's assertion that the girl had to be presumed innocent.

521 posted on 10/01/2004 7:18:54 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ladylib

Thanks for sending me that link! I didn't have time to read it all yet, but I do know that if a student has been identified to have some kind of disability (including emotional impairment), then schools may not simply suspend them for behaviors related to that disability.

For example, a student whose violent tendencies are related to some mental or emotional disability may be placed in a more restrictive (Of course, this restriction doesn't apply to the police, who can arrest, try, and punish students for criminal behavior.)


522 posted on 10/01/2004 7:19:28 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook

Apparently zero-tolerance abuse is very prevalent in Texas. Katy ISD also has a serious problem also.

The thing that surprises me is these parents permitted their kids to be railroaded into this program when they could have just as easily homeschooled their kids. Even if the kid did absolutely nothing at home and just sat in front of a computerized school program while the parents went to work, it still would be better than this abuse.

Another thing that surprises me is that nobody sues in federal court over this, nobody contacts the civil rights division of the DOE. I know that it's next to impossible to sue in state court in Texas.

I think public schools such as the one in this article contribute to students' mental illness. They should be avoided.


523 posted on 10/01/2004 7:38:14 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Oberon
Oh, THAT's what's wrong. You don't understand the context of all my replies!

Given this story, there is no context in which your statements would be accurate.

524 posted on 10/01/2004 7:41:28 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Okay, you've done it, you win, I concede, you're master of your internet domain and I am vanquished.

I yield to your greater knowledge and mastery of the law. Nonetheless, I will stand by the proposition that Alia's mention of presumption of innocence made in post 11 does not apply in this case.

You appear to agree, as indicated in Post 520 where you write "There is no presumption of innocence in a due process case." I concur. You da man. Congratulations.

525 posted on 10/01/2004 7:59:25 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Thank you.


526 posted on 10/01/2004 8:08:40 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: Lonely NY Conservative

I think you are dead on correct.


527 posted on 10/22/2004 3:49:36 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: closet freeper
She should have said "I went to my boyfriend's house and had sex with that free condom you gave me and HE was smoking."

Maybe that would have shut them up.

This is as bad as the kids who get expelled for drawing pictures of guns.

Our publick screwel administrators are overpaid and have too little to REALLY worry about.

528 posted on 10/22/2004 3:52:15 PM PDT by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: Alia
OH C'MON!!! What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"???

That only applies to liberals.

529 posted on 10/22/2004 3:54:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: ruiner

I got 5-days for allegedly having a Skoal can in my back pocket. Mr. Martinéz, I have not forgotten you!


530 posted on 10/22/2004 3:57:02 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways < Preserve America ! >)
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To: Terriergal

Maybe this girl should wait until she graduates and then slap the school district, idiotic principal, and everyone else for a defamation of character lawsuit.


531 posted on 10/22/2004 3:57:05 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: HairOfTheDog

Hey Hair, I agree with you and Lonely 100%.


532 posted on 10/22/2004 3:59:30 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: HairOfTheDog

Exactly right.


533 posted on 10/22/2004 4:01:31 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: pageonetoo

No need to resort to name calling in the middle of an adult discussion.


534 posted on 10/22/2004 4:03:38 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: closet freeper

Has mommy lawyered up yet?


535 posted on 10/22/2004 4:04:52 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: DSH

And kids are so much nicer, respectful and smarter than they used to be, huh?


536 posted on 10/22/2004 5:45:11 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: Raycpa

Absolutely right. The old fashioned way of raising children is the right way to bring them up. If all parents would stop running to these troublemakers defense the world would be a better place.


537 posted on 10/22/2004 5:48:05 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: Terriergal

... and then they are MSM'd "innocent" until proven "innocent" by lawyers and activist judges.


538 posted on 10/23/2004 4:32:04 AM PDT by Alia
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To: tuffydoodle
No need to resort to name calling in the middle of an adult discussion.

From your posts, I am not sure you are an adult... but you certainly seem think that the girl is guilty. I hope I never have to be on a jury with you...

539 posted on 10/23/2004 4:36:32 AM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: tuffydoodle

BTW, what did the girl do wrong?


540 posted on 10/23/2004 4:37:24 AM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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