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Training is touch-and-go around Oceana.(Naval Aviation)
Hampton Roads ^ | September 13, 2004 | JACK DORSEY

Posted on 09/27/2004 2:24:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

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1 posted on 09/27/2004 2:24:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Pukin Dog

Dog, has the Navy ever considered moving operations like these to Fallon or China Lake?

Seems to me there's lot's of room to play out there.


2 posted on 09/27/2004 2:28:21 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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Too expensive.

Also, once you got that number of people in any area, eventually the numbers would encourage the same kind of growth that caused the problem you see today.
3 posted on 09/27/2004 2:33:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Of course, this is AFTER they closed Cecil Field, the idiots.

Cecil was close enough to Mayport to be "near" a carrier homeport but was still kinda out in the boonies.

So they close it, but leave NAS Jax open, which is right in the middle of downtown Jacksonville.

But the BRAC recommendations were based more on politics than reality.

4 posted on 09/27/2004 2:37:45 PM PDT by Knitebane
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Koss recalls carefree days of flying from Cecil Field, Fla., which the Navy closed in 1999.

Sounds like they closed the wrong base.

5 posted on 09/27/2004 3:04:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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But the BRAC recommendations were based more on politics than reality.

I'll go along with that. I worked at Naval Air Technical Training Center in Millington, TN when BRAC decided to spend a billion plus and move it to Pensacola. As I heard it, the Navy's own analysis couldn't justify PCLA after they shut down NADEP, so the push was on to keep it, being the cradle of NAVAIR and all.

Congress threw Millington a bone and moved most of BUPERS and NAVCRUITCOM here, and gave the airfield and all the rest to the city.

6 posted on 09/27/2004 3:10:13 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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Ahh, Millington.

Ever visit that strip joint at the end of the main drag off Hwy-51? Home of the ugliest naked girls in America?

7 posted on 09/27/2004 3:12:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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PCola at least has some history.

NAS New Orleans has nothing but a golf course and a ramp where transient flag officers can fly in for Mardi Gras.

The place is sinking into the swamp but it will never get closed. Not as long as Bourbon Street is there.

8 posted on 09/27/2004 3:18:44 PM PDT by Knitebane
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Our children live in Va. Beach. He is stationed on the Big E. They have been lucky to have been there for 17 years. Everytime that we go to visit we are so glad to hear the jet noise. Makes us feel really safe to know that you all are in the sky protecting our country. Thank you so much for your service to our country. My advise to Mayor Myra is to stop building homes so close to the base.


9 posted on 09/27/2004 3:20:28 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Yep. the old Anchor (or was it Chancer, LOL) Lounge. Been there many times back in the early '80's. The place burned down sometime around 1990, and Milington City Hall re-zoned the property to prohibit any kind of alcohol serving establishment on that site, from what I have heard.

Millington was down pretty hard for a few years after the A Schools left, but things are picking up around here latey. The Old NAS Memphis is being marketed as the West Tennessee Reigonal Business Center - 8000' foot runway, 19,000 acres around it for industrial and office development. Hopefully something will come of all that.

We did have a ton of orange Navy aircraft up here last week for the hurricane flyaways. It was kinda nostalgic seeing a full flight line up there!

10 posted on 09/27/2004 3:25:04 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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The place is sinking into the swamp but it will never get closed. Not as long as Bourbon Street is there.

Rumors abound that the next BRAC will move the RESCEN 'Nawens up here so they can live happily everafter next door to BUPERS, but things being what they are, you are probably right. The Navy needs to stay close to *some* good liberty ports anyway! :o)

11 posted on 09/27/2004 3:28:35 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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Thats it! The Anchor Lounge. LOL. Man, they had some REAL dogs in that place. I flew into Millington a few times, looking for a cold beer and a conversation, stayed at the Hampton Inn down the street, and ate every night at that little Italian place just off the base. Oh, to be young again in Tennessee. If I felt like driving, I would end up at either Corky's in Germantown for some ribs.
12 posted on 09/27/2004 3:32:28 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Yep, they had to have 12.3 dancers in there to make a full set of teeth LOL.


13 posted on 09/27/2004 3:35:59 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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Well, that would put VFA-204 back where they started.

The River Rattlers stood up at Millington back in the '70s flying the A-4.

VP-94 would be kinda mis-located though, being the Crawfishers. And kinda pointless to put a P-3 squadron in the MidSouth.

Anyway, Beale Street is just like Bourbon Street, but without the smell.

14 posted on 09/27/2004 3:40:45 PM PDT by Knitebane
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That's the sound of freedom.

The Navy is having the same problem down in Pcola from the folks that bought in new developments built under the approach path past Blue Angel Parkway. The Navy pleaded with the contractors and the city not to build there. Like in Oceania, the Navy has tried to be a good neighbor by altering hours, and flight profiles but the complaints keep getting worse. People have to realize the Navy has operated out of those bases for nearly 100 years.

They should count their blessings that the noise is not from MiGs.


15 posted on 09/27/2004 3:46:08 PM PDT by Wristpin (Bloggers, forget your silly whim. It doesn't fit the plan!!)
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To: GaltMeister

Fallon is a great idea. It has the double bonus of Top Gun school and the Nellis bombing range.


16 posted on 09/27/2004 3:51:53 PM PDT by wiley
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Don't forget the Mermaid Club which was near the corner of 51 and Navy Road, near Millington Honda.


17 posted on 09/27/2004 4:10:37 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Makes us feel really safe to know that you all are in the sky protecting our country.

Not me anymore. Fact is, when Delta has enough gas money, I only protect peanuts from hungry flight attendants these days. But thank you and your boy for his service.

18 posted on 09/27/2004 4:41:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Fallon is a great idea. It has the double bonus of Top Gun school and the Nellis bombing range.

I don't Fallon is a good idea. Quals require a lot of airspace and base activity; more than I think that area could handle. Oceana is too busy right now without the added airframes.

I live next to Miramar, and I remember what it was like when I flew out of that place before it became a Marine base. Too many aircraft when you had half the Tomcat fleet and TopGun working off the same tarmac. It got crowded.

19 posted on 09/27/2004 4:45:19 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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I was born and raised in Norfolk and moved to S. Carolina in 1978. It's amazing how much the area's grown since then. It's pretty sad that the Navy's taking grief over Oceana, since Norfolk wouldn't be 1/3 the size it is without the presence of the Navy.


20 posted on 09/27/2004 6:00:09 PM PDT by Grandma Pam
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