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France pours cold water on Bush's sunny vision of Iraq (Champagne BARF)
AFP ^ | 9/24/04 | AFP

Posted on 09/23/2004 11:35:02 PM PDT by Mark Felton

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To: Mark Felton

Is this the same France that if it hadn't been for our support TWICE would now be speaking German and goodbye French?


41 posted on 09/24/2004 12:04:37 PM PDT by GOPologist
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To: Wardawg
"Unless your a high dollar wino, who needs France?"

And just WHAT is wrong with California wine! (hicup)

44 posted on 09/24/2004 12:33:58 PM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Mark Felton

That's not cold water. It's warm urine.


45 posted on 09/24/2004 3:46:31 PM PDT by snopercod (O beautiful for heroes proved, In liberating strife. Who more than self the country loved...)
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To: fuzzy122; Grampa Dave

Boycott their products, services, companies and don't go on vacation to their $hitty country.


French Products to Buycott

Make it a lifestyle to avoid French products or products made by what appear to be a non French company in America. The reality is that many of these companies like Wild Turkey are owned by the French.

Let them fear the American Street---our combined wallets.

"France has burned too many bridges!"

Lets keep burning those bridges that the slimey and worthless frogs keep trying to build post Iraq.

$crew the $limey Frogs with a Boycott and no vacations in Slimey Frog Land!


French Products to Buycott

We can resist their wines which usually come in behind the good Napa Valley Wines and Australian wines in blind tasting without French Judges like in the Winter Olympics.

We can do without French Products and services for the rest of this decade. Here is a list of French companies and their products to avoid for the rest of this decade. Please keep this list and send it to your relatives, friends and fellow conservatives via e and snail mail!

*New additions to the list.

Air France

Air Liquide

Airbus

Alcatel - Based in Paris France, Provider of communications equipment, including ADSL equipment, terrestrial and submarine optical networks, public switching, fixed wireless access and intelligent networks.


Allegra (Allergy Medication) - Produced by Aventis Pharmaceuticals based in Strasbourg, France

Aqualung (Including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest)

AXA Advisors

*Bacou-Dalloz-Makes Industrial protective devices

Bank of the West - Owned by BNP Paribas

Beneteau (boats)

BF Goodrich - Owned by Michelin

BIC (Razors, Pens & Lighters) - Started in 1945 by Marcel Bich. Originally based just outside of Paris. Began trading on the Paris Stock Exchange in 1972. 40.5% Publicly traded. Bich family still owns 33.5%.

Biotherm (Cosmetics)

Black Bush

Bollinger (Champagne)

*Browning Firearms**

Car & Driver Magazine

Cartier

Chanel

Chivas Regal (Scotch)

Christian Dior

Club Med (Vacations) - Owned in part by Paris based CDC (Caisse des Dépôts et Consignations)


Culligan (owned by Vivendi)

Dannon (Yogurt & Dairy Foods)

*Danone -Lea and Perrin, Evian and other food/water

*Decatholon Super Sport Stores or MVP Sport Stores*

* Dassault Systemes-(CATIA design software)*

DKNY - LVMH acquired 100% of Gabrielle Studio Inc., the privately owned licenser of Donna Karan trademarks back in 2001.

*DMC THREADS

Dom Perignon

Durand Crystal

Elle Magazine

*Emile Henry French Cookware

*Enertec makes high speed recorders used in Recon aircraft p>Essilor Optical Products

*Essilon- Varilux Progressive Lenses for eye glasses

Evian

Fina Oil - Billions invested in Iraqi Oil fields -FINA GAS STATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE NOT FRENCH-OWNED AND ARE NOT PART OF TOTAL-ELF-FINA ... FINA GAS STATIONS ARE OWNED BY ALON ISRAEL OIL COMPANY ..

First Hawaiian Bank

George Magazine

Givenchy

*Grey Goose Vodka

*GroupeSEB owns Krups, Moulinex, Roweta and Tefal Cookware

*Groupe Shneider, owner of Modicon and Square D

*Guerlain Fragrances

*Hachette Filipacchi owner publisher of many magazines sold in the USA. See the list below:***

Hennessy

Houghton Mifflin (books) International Herald Tribune - 181 ave Charles-de-Gaulle - F-92521 Neuilly - FRSource:World Business Council for Sustainable Development '00 [Domain Registration], [Corporate Profile]

Jacobs Creek - Owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989

Jameson (whiskey Owned by Pernod Ricard )

Jerry Springer (talk show)

Krups

****Lagardere****

Lancome

*Lea & Perrins a product of Danon

Le Creuset (Cookware)

L'Oreal (Health & Beauty Products)

Louis Vuitton

Marie Claire

Martel Cognac

Maybelline

Méphisto (Footwear & Apparel)

Michelin (Tires & Auto Parts) - Their phone number is: (33) 1 45 66 15 53 in France

Mikasa Crystal and Glass (purchased by ARC int'l in 2001)

Moet (Champagne)

Motel 6 - 33, Avenue du Maine- 75755 Paris Cedex 15 France

Motown Records

MP3.com

Mumms (Champagne)

Nissan (Cars) - Majority owned by Renault

Nivea

Normany Butter

Parents Magazine

*Perrier

Peugeot (Automobiles) - Pronounced "Pooh Joe", must be French

Pierre Cardin

Playstation Magazine

ProScan - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France

Publicis Group (Including: Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising)

RCA (televisions & electronics) - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France

Red Magazine

Red Roof Inns - Owned by the Accor group based in France

Renault (Automobiles) major owner of Nissan

Road & Track Magazine

Roquefort Cheese - All Roquefort cheese is made in France

Rowenta (Toasters, Irons, Coffee makers, etc)

Royal Canadian

Salomon (Skis)

Seagram's Gin

Sierra Software and Computer Games

*Sodexho Alliance* French Food Caterer for the US Marines

Sofitel (Hotels) - Owned by the Accor group based in France

Sparkletts (Water) - Owned by Danone, based in France

Spencer Gifts

Sundance Channel

Taylor Made (Golf)

Technicolor

T-Fal (Kitchenware)

The Glenlivet (Scotch) *Top Tobacco - Dist. by Republic Tobacco L.P., Glenview IL, made in France

UbiSoft (Computer Games)

Uniroyal

Uniroyal Tires - Owned by Michelin

Universal Studios (Music, Movies & Theme Parks) -

Universal Studios is owned by Vivendi-Universal, headquartered in Paris France

USFilter

Veritas Group

Veuve Clicquot Champagne

Vittel

Vivendi - Vivendi Headquarters, Paris France

Wild Turkey (bourbon)

*Winchester Firearms (US Repeating Arms)**

Woman's Day Magazine

Yoplait - France-based Sodiaal owns a 50% stake of Yoplait

Yves Saint Laurent

*Yves Rocher Cosmetics

*ZigZag (tobacco papers and roller products)*

Zodiac Inflatable Boats

*New additions to the list thanks to Freepers. If you have an addition, Freepmail me with the URL showing French ownership.

** Sad news but these two companies are owned by the Belgian Company Herstal, (French Light)

***List of 18 magazines sold in USA by Hachette Filipacchi with an estimated 50 million readers: American Photo, Boating, Car Stereo Review's Mobile Entertainment, Cycle World, ELLE Decor, ELLEgirl, Flying, Home, Metropolitan Home, Popular Photography, Premiere, Sound & Vision, Travel Holiday, Woman's Day Woman's Day Special Interest Publications.

****Lagardere owns the Virgin Megastore group in France, which it bought from Richard Branson three years ago. Its Hachette media division publishes a battery of magazines including Elle , see *** Hachette Filipacchi above. Lagardere also has a stake in the Airbus manufacturing operation. The company is capitalised at over €5bn.


41 posted on 04/16/2004 1:37:16 PM EDT by Grampa Dave (America can't afford a 9/10 John F'onda al Querry after 9/11.)


46 posted on 09/24/2004 3:51:40 PM PDT by snopercod (O beautiful for heroes proved, In liberating strife. Who more than self the country loved...)
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To: snopercod

Thanks for posting that list.

It is still valid.

When we have regime changes in Iran and Syria, eventually we will find out how involved the French were with the despot leaders in Iraq, Iran and Syria.


47 posted on 09/24/2004 5:17:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Mark Felton


48 posted on 09/24/2004 5:42:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Mark Felton

Let France pour the cold water...and let the MSM provide the manure. Bush's sunny vision comes from knowing the seed of freedom has been planted and is taking root.


49 posted on 09/24/2004 7:56:28 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Mark Felton

It's a set up. Two weeks before the election, they will announce they may change their position if kerry is elected.


50 posted on 09/24/2004 8:01:43 PM PDT by paul51 (`Buy your son a belt and teach him how it works)
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To: Jim Robinson

Iraq ,France what's the difference???


51 posted on 09/24/2004 8:29:04 PM PDT by the conservative bean
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To: snopercod

I don't know that all these products and companies were french. We have great products and companies.


52 posted on 09/25/2004 12:32:04 AM PDT by Marie007 (La politique dénature et ruine l'amitié)
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To: snopercod

"Car & Driver Magazine"

I just got one of those unsolicited mailers to subscribe to this. Wrote "Not in this lifetime Frenchy" on it and mailed it back in the conveniently provided, no stamp needed envelope. It put a big smile on my face and didn't cost a dime. You gotta love stuff like that


53 posted on 09/25/2004 8:41:06 AM PDT by libs_kma (FU*K HANOI JOHN AND THE HORSE HE'S MARRIED TOO!!!)
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To: Marie007
We have great products and companies.

Oh, I agree. Now if you could just get rid of Chirac and Villepan...

54 posted on 09/25/2004 8:47:44 AM PDT by snopercod (O beautiful for heroes proved, In liberating strife. Who more than self the country loved...)
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To: snopercod

I hope we could get rid of Chirac and Villepin. I said on an other post that Villepin could be first minister instead Raffarin in few days, I hope it's a joke, because he is very unhealthy, and it is a very bad new for Frenchs, the freedoms will be reduced.


55 posted on 09/25/2004 10:59:56 AM PDT by Marie007 (La politique dénature et ruine l'amitié)
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To: Mark Felton
German wants to be on the SC, does it? OK, here it is. Germany can have a seat as soon as they have liberated more people than they have killed. By my count, they are behind approximately 50 million to nothing. So they better get cracking.
56 posted on 09/25/2004 7:49:27 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: the conservative bean
The difference is, Iraq is grateful for its liberation...
57 posted on 09/25/2004 7:52:14 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Mark Felton

Perceptions of success in Iraq is the real war.

AND THE LEFT IS WINNING THE WAR OF PERCEPTIONS IN IRAQ.

Think about it.

Very few of us will ever visit Iraq, meet an Iraqi or even a soldier with first-hand information.

Everything we, and the world, know about this war, is filtered through the media.

The Left know this all to well, and have engaged Michael Moore, AP, AFP, CBS, NYT, Reuters, MTV, etc. to claim we are losing.

In rebuttal, where the hell is the White House Public Relations team? Where are the CIA psyops teams?

We need a major change in tactics.

We need to invest major resources into to winning the war of perceptions in Iraq.

The benefits?

1. Strengthen American resolve. Who doesn't want to be on the winning team? Who doesn't love hearing about the frequent and ruthless killing of terrorist leaders? Who doesn't love watching military videos with imploding terrorists? Who doesn't love seeing Iraqi children going to school, giving flowers and kissing soldiers? The recent images out of Iraq are predominantly Abu Ghraib torture, burning Humvees and beheadings. Time to turn Iraq into the American GI Dance Revue, Oprah and John Wayne. SHOW IT.

2. Weaken terrorist resolve. Their weak communication links make them heavily dependent on outside news. Inundate them with bad stuff. Sabotage and infiltrate Al Jazeera. CONTROL IT.

3. Strengthen Iraqi resolve. The fence-sitters will move positively toward peaceful goals only when they know the resistance is defeated. They are easily influenced by primitive propaganda. USE IT.

4. Strengthen World resolve. The envious Euroweasels are looking to knock us down and leading the assault at the UN. Start applying financial and political muscle to tie support of America to continuing support of our efforts. Money Talks. SPEND IT.

5. Preempt Future Conflicts. Early images of American fighter jets and precision munitions targeting scared the daylights out of foreign leaders in countries like Libya. Time to ramp it up again, and demonstrate to the world that American military might is invincible. FLAUNT IT.


58 posted on 09/26/2004 5:30:10 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Mark Felton
Not to worry. Bush has a long memory. Following his re-election you can bet he's going to roast France slowly over the flames of the UN oil for bribes scandal to make sure that every French politician involved is named and their role in this scandal fully detailed. In addition, it would not surprise me if France has a great deal of difficulty signing contracts with Iraq having anything to do with oil or arms procurement for the foreseeable future.
59 posted on 09/26/2004 5:39:45 AM PDT by finnigan2
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