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Jimmy Carter’s Trail of Disaster
Newsmax | May 13, 2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 09/23/2004 5:43:23 PM PDT by The Real Indepman

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To: The Real Indepman
When Mount St. Helens erupted, Jimmy Carter wanted to put it out. He wanted bombers to fly over the volcano and drop money. He was convinced that if enough money was dropped, it would put out the volcano.

Then it would be known as the MAGMA CARTER.:)
21 posted on 09/23/2004 6:41:06 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: The Real Indepman

"Yeah but.... He's a Nobel laureate!" ( I can hear the RATs intoning that mantra now). In my estimation, Carter is one of our worst presidents ever, and in some respects he is worse than Klintoon, and that's terrible.


22 posted on 09/23/2004 6:42:37 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: The Real Indepman

Carter is without question our worst Ex-President.


23 posted on 09/23/2004 6:47:08 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: The Real Indepman

If there was a president in our history that was worse than Jimmy Carter, please tell me who it would be. I can't think of anyone that idiotic. If I went to the history of other countries I don't think I could find anyone that stupid.Well Maybe France or Canada!


24 posted on 09/23/2004 6:52:55 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Ann Archy

He IS the worst.


25 posted on 09/23/2004 7:12:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Paulus Invictus

So is their all-time super-duper superhero, Arafat.


26 posted on 09/23/2004 7:20:10 PM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: The Real Indepman
You wrote "With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan; no doubt a direct link to the rise of the Taliban can be traced to this invasion. Iraq also took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran. A long war followed that helped make Saddam's Iraq a great Middle Eastern power."

For the most part you are correct in your written passage, except, most of the Shah's Generals were executed and the Iranian forces were left with no experienced battlefield commanders. Case in point: General Rabbi (sp?) and Lt. General Khourshadad were executed by Ayatollah Khomeini's revolutionary guard. Previous to 1976 there was a very brief war between Iran and Iraq in which Iraq backed down.The Ayatollah Khomeini had a great deal of help overthrowing the Shah and it just wasn't from Jimmie C. Many middle eastern fighters were there to take up positions within the cities and airports. Life magazine had pictures of the Shah's loyalists and military personnel being executed by people that were not Iranian.

Yes, we can thank Jimmie C. for the lost of protection afforded to us by him giving up Panama Canal.
27 posted on 09/23/2004 9:26:35 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: gitmo

I think Jimmy Carter is an angel from Hell!


28 posted on 09/23/2004 9:29:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: NY Attitude
AMERICA's war on terrorism did not begin in September 2001. It began in November 1979.

That was shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini had seized power in Iran, riding the slogan "Death to America" - and sure enough, the attacks on Americans soon began. In November 1979, a militant Islamic mob took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the Iranian capital, and held 52 Americans hostage for the next 444 days.

The rescue team sent to free those hostages in April 1980 suffered eight fatalities, making them the first of militant Islam's many American casualties. Others included:

April 1983: 17 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

October 1983: 241 dead at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.

December 1983: five dead at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.

January 1984: the president of the American University of Beirut killed.

April 1984: 18 dead near a U.S. airbase in Spain.

September 1984: 16 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again).

December 1984: Two dead on a plane hijacked to Tehran.

June 1985: One dead on a plane hijacked to Beirut.

After a let-up, the attacks then restarted: Five and 19 dead in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996, 224 dead at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998 and 17 dead on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.

Simultaneously, the murderous assault of militant Islam also took place on U.S. soil:

July 1980: an Iranian dissident killed in the Washington, D.C. area.

August 1983: a leader of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam killed in Canton, Mich.

August 1984: three Indians killed in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash.

September 1986: a doctor killed in Augusta, Ga.

January 1990: an Egyptian freethinker killed in Tucson, Ariz.

November 1990: a Jewish leader killed in New York.

February 1991: an Egyptian Islamist killed in New York.

January 1993: two CIA staff killed outside agency headquarters in Langley, Va.

February 1993: Six people killed at the World Trade Center.

March 1994: an Orthodox Jewish boy killed on the Brooklyn Bridge.

February 1997: a Danish tourist killed on the Empire State building.

October 1999: 217 passengers killed on an EgyptAir flight near New York City.

In all, 800 persons lost their lives in the course of attacks by militant Islam on Americans before September 2001 - more than killed by any other enemy since the Vietnam War. (Further, this listing does not include the dozens more Americans in Israel killed by militant Islamic terrorists.)

And yet, these murders hardly registered. Only with the events of a year ago did Americans finally realize that "Death to America" truly is the battle cry of this era's most dangerous foe, militant Islam.

In retrospect, the mistake began when Iranians assaulted the U.S. embassy in Tehran and met with no resistance.

Interestingly, a Marine sergeant present at the embassy that fateful day in November 1979 agrees with this assessment. As the militant Islamic mob invaded the embassy, Rodney V. Sickmann followed orders and protected neither himself nor the embassy. As a result, he was taken hostage and lived to tell the tale. (He now works for Anheuser-Busch.)

In retrospect, he believes that passivity was a mistake. The Marines should have done their assigned duty, even if it cost their lives. "Had we opened fire on them, maybe we would only have lasted an hour." But had they done that, they "could have changed history."

Standing their ground would have sent a powerful signal that the United States of America cannot be attacked with impunity. In contrast, the embassy's surrender sent the opposite signal - that it's open season on Americans. "If you look back, it started in 1979; it's just escalated," Sickmann correctly concludes.

To which one of the century's great geostrategist thinkers, Robert Strausz-Hupé, adds his assent. Just before passing away earlier this year at the age of 98, Strausz-Hupé wrote his final words, and they were about the war on terrorism: "I have lived long enough to see good repeatedly win over evil, although at a much higher cost than need have been paid. This time we have already paid the price of victory. It remains for us to win it."

Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum and author of "Militant Islam Reaches America."


29 posted on 09/23/2004 9:30:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Hands down , the worst US president EVER...


30 posted on 09/23/2004 9:33:33 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code)
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To: The Real Indepman
I think Carter's treaty with Korea, which allowed Korea years without nuclear weapons inspections was worse. However, we're still cleaning up Carter's screwups all over the world, and he's still criticizing every Republican in sight.

Carter was probably the worst three presidents in US history.

31 posted on 09/23/2004 9:38:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: Rome2000
Okay, as one that was there during the time frame of January 1977 through July 1979, I have seen these things first-hand. The revolution started before November 1978. The Shah departed Iran on December 16th, 1978 and the Ayatollah entered Iran in January of 1979. Roving crowds of pro Shah and Khomeini supporters were in the streets and many carried clubs. The trick was to know which group of supporters yo were dealing with. Because I had to drive to work I had to go through the various areas of supporters. It got exciting at times.
32 posted on 09/23/2004 9:46:07 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: The Real Indepman
I believe Carter's decision to have the Shah fall is arguably the most egregious U.S. foreign policy mistake of the last 50 years. [Former President Bush's decision to allow Saddam Hussein to stay in power is a close second. Former President Bush did not have the support from the coalition to go after Sadam.
33 posted on 09/23/2004 9:48:48 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Shellback Chuck
The draft dodger pardon thing was his first official act, I believe.

And we can't forget double-digit inflation and the oil embargo leaving us with "odd/even" (first license plate digit determined what days you could buy petro) gas lines. Can you imagine the SUV soccer moms of today putting up with that under a Bush administration?

34 posted on 09/24/2004 12:09:37 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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