Posted on 09/21/2004 8:24:29 PM PDT by GIJoel
What role, if any, did Lech Walesa have in the Communist Proletariat of Poland. Obviously union leader=Communist in Poland, right? It does in America I believe.
Why do people believe that plans for world dominance that are decades and generations old would disappear overnight, when all the Communists still can hold office?
It boggles the mind, and we did it, America, with Ba'athists in Iraq. We should have, well, put them in camps and processed them, while checking their homes for weapons and bomb factories...
I asked about moslem willingness to slaughter children and offered to let you pick the year. Why is that difficult to address? Moslems have been blowing up Israeli kids for a while now.
" THANKS for asking HONEST questions. I will try to give you equally honest answers tomorrow. "
Thanks in return. I have another question.
" The list is endless, and so are the aberrations of all people who read their own preconceived passions into their respective religions. "
How are the aberrations of Catholics and Protestants similar to the aberrations of Moslems?
Surely any discussion of relative propensity to adopt terrorist methods based on religious affiliation would be incomplete without mention of the only successful religious terrorists of the last century.
>>>
Just say what you mean and mean what you say. What are you saying? To whom are you referring?
You beat me to the question...
" The list is endless, and so are the aberrations of all people who read their own preconceived passions into their respective religions. "
How are the aberrations of Catholics and Protestants similar to the aberrations of Moslems?
=== Why is that difficult to address?
Because it invites a showing that they are only responding in kind.
And again, you'll also have to forgive me if I can't manage to get past the absurd notion that any nation-state which sanctions abortion has anything like genuine feelings "for the children".
No, putting people into camps outside your own national borders and culture (although the terrosists deserve it) is a lot harder than it sounds. What we should do is cut-off all aid, trade and tech. tranfers to COMMUNIST countries (including the Soviets), and then, with the help of the Israelis, take out the Syrian puppets in Lebanon (the former Reviera of the Middle East), the Communist-Radical socialists gov't of Syria, and surround Iran from the North (Turkey), from the West (Iraq) and from the East and Southeast (Afghanistan and Pakistan), and from the South with our aircraft carriers and amphibious assault carriers (but don't forget cutting off all aid and trade to Communist tyranies, thus denying them their normal role using our own money, tech. etc. against us) and then take out all these Commie-sympathizer gov'ts at oumce...then our troops will no longer have to deal with foreign "insurgents" (thus expiditing their mission!). If history is any guide, we can count on Jordan et al to remain moderately neutral (except in the case of the UN forum, where they will be covering their backs just in case the forces of FREEDOM lose their nerve (elections) and cave-in before the job is finished). Now it's really time for bed...goodnight.
My father was always adamant that we--the progeny of Breens, Harmons, Odells and Ryans--NEVER identify ourselves as "Irish Catholics" given his utter contempt for the terrorist IRA.
Discussing it one time when I was in grade school, I remember his observing that it had been a mistake for Britain to capitulate to the Zionist terrorists since it only encouraged the IRA (and others) to believe terrorism could actually be a successful tack for extortion.
All of that went over my head, of course. I certainly never made the connection between the "Zionist Terrorists" of which my Dad spoke and the state of Israel ... hell, I was aching to convert to Judaism after I saw "Raid on Entebbe." Very pro-Israel upbringing.
I think terrorism can be an immensely successful tack, actually. Not the sort perpetuated by brainwashed desperate Palestinians conditioned to the inhuman and irrational act of suicide (which actually speaks volumes about the sort of brainwashing they've received). But the sort that has traditionally been deployed by those who repeated over and over and over that: The Revolution makes no sense without terror.
I think all too often folks who believe the French Revolution was some hallmark of "liberty, equality and fraternity" rather than the terrorist bloodbath and ritual slaughter of all natural and reasonable authority (particularly that of the Church) are inclined to overlook the very real elegance of terror as used by its most consistent practitioners in the Art of bringing Order out of the sort of Chaos that terror -- above all -- invokes immediately in a then fearful, thoroughly shocked and often rightfully angry populace.
I'm pretty confident that those who bankrolled Lenin and sent him back to Russia were well aware of the fact they were funding a terrorist, tried and true.
Not much changes, really. Those who think the world "changed" on 9/11 must just be ignorant, I guess, of the fact terror -- particularly that practiced by French radicals and their progeny the Narodnya Volya -- has always been a force to be reckoned with but had reached a certain perfection as adopted by the (ongoing) Revolution.
Lukasz wrote: "I don’t know how I can seriously join to this discussion cause this discussion isn’t serious."
It's very simple...then don't join it!
I'm starting to wobble now, so for the last time, I'm going to bed!!!
May your lives be filled with clear skies, calm seas, and following winds (that even goes for those who disagree with me, as long as you're honest). Goodnight.
I will be posting about the IRA very soon! I like you (and your father) even more now than before. Goodnight.
=== Moslems have been blowing up Israeli kids for a while now.
So what? Israelis have slaughtered innocent Muslim children for quite a while now and even are unapologetic about bulldozing stupid young American women too stupid to leave the Palestinians to their plight.
If your argument is that "Muslims" are somehow more inclined to slaughter kids than the FSB, I think --- in light of Israel's record since (and leading up to 1948) --- you perhaps should argue the propensity for child killing is one of ME Semitic blood, not a particular faith.
At which point, I will separate for you those Semites (Jew and Muslim) who have been tainted by their association with "former Soviets" and those who have not.
Hey, you said we are not serious, not me. Are you here for a non-serious discussion? If so, you have come to the wrong place. If you are in for a serious discussion, then you have come to the right place. Which is it?
You know I heard somewhere that USA is in fact communist country and they only imitate that they were fought with USSR. That Cold war it was just propaganda and brainwash for other countries. You watched in USA such tale for children like “Pinky and the Brain” those guys also have very ambitious plans! :-)
Even if I think so, rest of my second post was serious.
A large part of Israeli population came from Russia and Soviet Union. Many came recently. They know Russia much better than our conspiracy theorists.
Now you show yourself either as a pure liar or totally ignorant of the situation or a pure propagandist preying on the weak minded. I guess you missed the various elections with US and EU and UN observers all saying the people voted freely. But then this does not fit well into your propaganda mudslinging. Are you on the Neocon or Wahhabi payroll? Or do you double dip off of both?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.