Posted on 09/21/2004 12:01:06 AM PDT by Commie Basher
........and I disagree with Mr. Peikoff.
Ain't she grand!
By the way, did you even read the post you replied to?
is this a trick question
I'm not trying to pick a fight. It's just that I couldn't quite figure out the thrust of your reply (40) to my post (39). Was it a critique or what?
I can imagine what she must have thought of The Passion. I know Peikoff joined those attacking the film.
Let's agree to disagree on religion. It's a matter of faith - I prefer reason to faith.
But hey, free country.
I am a devout christian who has read many of rand's greatest works. I think that ayn rand complained too much about religion but oh well. Objectivism is still brilliant and i have never read a better condemnation of socialism/communism than atlas shrugged.
Leonard Peikoff or whatever his name is is NOT ayn rand. Therefore i would be hesitant to blame objectivism or rand on anything that comes out of his mouth.
I think he is a fool for endorsing kerry over bush. Granted, bush does not embody the ayn rand ideal, but he embodies it more closely than kerry.
So thar leonard.
Sorry, I forgot to say one more thing-
As an objectivist myself, I reject Peikoff's arguments as just plain bubble-headed. I support GWB all the way.
the most important thing i took from atlas shrugged was that throughout history there have been two kinds of people: builders and destroyers.
If those who do not create are overwhelmed by those who cannot/willnot create and chose to destroy then civilization is doomed.
as far as i can tell, kerry is a destroyer. He would think nothing of shackling free enterprise in order to achieve some hare-brained social engineering goal.
sorry, that should ahve been "if those who do create are overwhelmed"
Is that you Mark Scott? Excelsior!
Although I was never an Objectivist, the most important thing I got from Rand was the realization that Left-feminists do not care about women's rights, and Left-environmentalists do not care about the environment.
IOW, I learned at age 15 (from reading Rand's THE ANTI-INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, aka THE RETURN OF THE PRIMITIVE), that the Left's pronouncements are not to be taken at face value.
hehe yeah. That is one reason i like bush because he actually does seem to care about the things he feels strongly about (most of the time..sometimes i get the feeling he is appeasing special interst groups but that is a must for a politician these days).
do you think clinton really cares what happens to blacks or gays? or the environment?
nah. he just likes the power. I think the liberal idealogy attracts people like clinton and hillary because it is easier for them to disguise their power grabs as concern over special interest groups.
Hmmm, bump.
I don't know if that was Mark Scott, but I sure miss his broadcast!
Here's what's weird about that. The thinly veiled criticisms of Christianity in Atlas Shrugged suggest a disdain for the sort of Christianity that deserves criticism: a doctrine of cliches and misinformation. If true, than Rand at that time was attacking what masquerades as Christianity.
Furthermore, the virtues, the character of the heroes, the nature of the villains, and the even the Messiah-like figure of Galt are so borrowed from Christianity, that it is plain that Rand found inspiration in Christianity, whether acknowledged or not.
So, while she may have indicated a disdain for hypocrisy in religion (and rightly so), she glorified the very virtues that Christianity upholds.
If so, she wouldn't have acknowledged it even to herself. (Although, she did meet her future husband while working as an extra on De Mille's Ten Commandments.)
She also denied that Nietzsche was an influence, though admitted having read him. She pretty much thought she was the most original philosopher who ever lived, with the possible exception of Aristotle.
I would guess that she had some explaining to do...
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