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Iron fist reappears in Russia
seattle times ^ | September 19, 2004 | STEVEN LEE MYERS

Posted on 09/19/2004 10:39:50 PM PDT by MarMema

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To: streetpreacher

There never really was a Democratic Russia...


21 posted on 09/20/2004 12:01:39 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: streetpreacher

Communists don't change their ideals, they just change their 'skin', as in their 'perceived reality'...


22 posted on 09/20/2004 12:03:07 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

I don't see any truth in it. Lots of tinfoil to go around though. :-)


23 posted on 09/20/2004 12:05:55 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: ApesForEvolution

True... just a lull between tyrannies; basically Russia has just used this time to lull the West to sleep while it re-strategizes and re-consolidates. Russians love a good game of chess, don't they?


24 posted on 09/20/2004 12:06:10 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Bush did not lead this country into an unjust war; Kerry led this country out of a just war.)
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To: Domangart
If they don't get the bribe problem under control then nothing they do is worth anything.

TADA! You get my award, which I am sure is meaningless, but nevertheless you get my award for post of the day.

25 posted on 09/20/2004 12:07:07 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

No, I've studied bits and pieces of this truth for years, this just puts the whole thing together. You haven't had time to read it. Your response just told me all I need to know about your Putin-loving Communist ways...


26 posted on 09/20/2004 12:08:05 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Get in line, dear. :-)


27 posted on 09/20/2004 12:08:55 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: streetpreacher

Goto the link at #20. This is the real deal brother...

And, let's get this straightened out...

"True... just a lull between Communist expansion; basically Communism has just used this time to lull the West to sleep while it re-strategizes and re-consolidates. Communists are evil, incrementalist bastards..."

There, that's better...


28 posted on 09/20/2004 12:10:36 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: MarMema

When you read it, get back to me with something more than 'tin-foil-hat' crap...


29 posted on 09/20/2004 12:11:27 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: struwwelpeter
Not likely, I say.

The Reichstag fire scenario works when there is a) a weak or merely surficial democratic tradtion and b) a genuinely chaotic economic situation. Both are true in Russia, neither is true here. It would take a major strike -- e.g. multiple nukes in US cities, before you wound up with this being credible. At least for now.

30 posted on 09/20/2004 12:12:55 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: ApesForEvolution
Seriously, think about what you know about communism, and then look at Russia today.

The mistake most freepers are making is seeing centralized power, and forgetting about all the other things involved in communism.

Besides other than being a control freak, Putin is a conservative. Look at his economic programs.

Then read about who is after him bigtime - the liberals. And they support the chechens.

Hard to understand how freepers are missing the boat and siding with the liberals, but I see it all day long.

31 posted on 09/20/2004 12:13:09 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Read the information and come back with intelligent dialogue based on the facts, all footnoted for your convenience...or just be a Communist tool...


32 posted on 09/20/2004 12:15:14 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution
OK it's ten years old. Things change a lot in ten years.

It's fearmongering.

It's trying to sell something, using fear.

33 posted on 09/20/2004 12:15:16 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: ApesForEvolution

I am not feeling so patient with namecalling these days, so either knock it off or don't ping me anymore.


35 posted on 09/20/2004 12:16:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Don't worry, I'm finished with you...


36 posted on 09/20/2004 12:17:03 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Just added this to my favorites list for later reading. Nice to see someone making the Communist/Islamofascist link. I made a comment on a thread once about Bin Laden supporters previously receiving Marxist training and support from Soviet agents and was ridiculed. I don't remember the source but it was pretty compelling, hard facts, dates, etc. Of course, we know the extent of the Soviet/Iranian relationship, even to this day.

I wonder about all of the prophecy teachers (who I disagree with on a number of issues) who made the claims that the Soviet Union would return and that there would only be a "window" of opportunity to reach Russia with the gospel before totalitarianism returned. This was when the rest of the world was singing the praises of a "democratic" Russia. Seems these prophecy teachers didn't accept that Russian democracy would last because they believe the Bible names Russia as the king of the north, Gog and Magog, who will invade Israel in the end-times.


37 posted on 09/20/2004 12:21:32 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Bush did not lead this country into an unjust war; Kerry led this country out of a just war.)
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To: ApesForEvolution; MarMema

You've got every right to question their policy. Notice how Marmena hasn't replied to a single post on Russia's pro-Iranian government's nuke plan program.

Marmema, if you've got a defense for Putin reply to why Russia is helping the Iranian government build their SECOND nuclear power plant, after the terror attacks in Beslan?


38 posted on 09/20/2004 12:22:03 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: ApesForEvolution; MarMema

Kids! Break it up!

39 posted on 09/20/2004 12:22:36 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: freedom44

None available, sorry.


40 posted on 09/20/2004 12:24:57 AM PDT by MarMema
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