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Bill Burkett's Yahoo Groups Message to his Fellow DemonCats
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Posted on 09/18/2004 10:14:28 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: HannaUSA
It doesn't make sense for him to be complaining that the Democrat's failures are gonna make it so close that the Democrat's dirty tricks will win the election.
81 posted on 09/18/2004 11:10:35 PM PDT by Wissa
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To: igoramus987

Note Burkett is in 2 different Yahoo groups...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexasDemocrat2/message/8925
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Democrats/message/7167


82 posted on 09/18/2004 11:12:02 PM PDT by igoramus987
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To: ambrose

"He (Kerry) has left himself as a piñata at the end of Karl Rove's baton."

He's not completely deluded. This statement from Burkett showed he had a grasp on the situation.

"C'mon Kerry, get out that spitball cannon and fight, you gutless wonder".


83 posted on 09/18/2004 11:16:08 PM PDT by planekT
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To: Wissa
Ok look at what he is saying;

We have the emotion, the backlash, the issues, and discontent, but we don't have the passion for a fight. And that's what is about to get the elec tion tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.

"But we don't have the passion for the fight (and that's what is about to get the election tight enough)" I think he means "the passion for the fight" IS going to get it close enough for the dirty tricks to work for them! That is how I read it.

84 posted on 09/18/2004 11:19:36 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the Pajama Blogger Brigade (FR))
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To: blondee123
Possibly.

I think its unclear enough that we could get embarassed by this though.

I've been wrong before though. Time will tell, I guess.

85 posted on 09/18/2004 11:24:11 PM PDT by Wissa
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To: manx

Is this guy for real? If he never talked to this people how did he get in touch with CBS>


86 posted on 09/18/2004 11:24:24 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Wissa

Well the guy doesn't have the best grammer & I hope that sending it to all the MSM is not a mistake for us.


87 posted on 09/18/2004 11:30:47 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the Pajama Blogger Brigade (FR))
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To: occutegirl
That is my concern, also. Is this guy for real? This is too perfect.

When you follow the link to the Yahoo! group, you are told you have to be a member to view the messages. Somebody got smart and joined the group, before they could shut it down is what I am guessing.

Still....this is too good. If somebody told me to make up the craziest, most unbelievable whack-job for Dan Blather's "unimpeachable" (snicker) source, my wildest imagination would not equal this for sheer ridiculousity.
88 posted on 09/18/2004 11:32:21 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: blondee123

Me too.


89 posted on 09/18/2004 11:33:13 PM PDT by Wissa
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To: M1911A1

If the guy is raving loon how did he get in contact with Rather? Did Max Cleland really blow him off?

At some point, if he is the source, someone decided to take him seriously, what I would like to know is who that was.


90 posted on 09/18/2004 11:42:25 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: ambrose
Look at this!! The press would like you to think that Bill Burkett is an alienated lone wolf, a disabled former member of the National Guard working independent of all power bases. Nothing is further from the truth. Far from being a wacked-out loner, Bill Burkett is powerful and influential figure in TX Democrat Circles...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Democrats/message/7278

Fellow Progressive Populist Caucus Members:

Our brother, Bill Burkett is under siege by the Carl Rove smear machine. Bill is a charter member of the PPC and our friend. Co-founder of the PPC with me,

David Van Os assures me that as Bill's legal Counsel on a longstanding basis, any assertions that Bill has engaged in "forgery" vis a vis the now infamous documentation of the Bush desertion of duty as a Texas National Guardsman is total smear with the footprints of the Karl Rove modus operandi all over it. Representing the PPC, I stand with both our brothers Burkett and Van Os and applaud their guts to stand up to the right wing slander machine; President Kerry and many of our DNC brethren can take a lesson from our two populist fellow-Texans who have the cajones to look contemptuously in the eye these ruthless cowards bringing down our formerly proud democracy and tell them to go to h*ll.

Stan Merriman Chair, Progressive Populist Caucus of the Texas Democratic Party. MORE

91 posted on 09/18/2004 11:46:52 PM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Wissa

I bow to your expertise. You are correct:) Guess I was a little too eager to see them admit what they do;/


92 posted on 09/18/2004 11:56:07 PM PDT by HannaUSA
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To: igoramus987

Seems you need to be a member to get into the first one.


93 posted on 09/19/2004 12:00:35 AM PDT by HannaUSA
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To: dandelion
President Kerry and many of our DNC brethren can take a lesson from our two populist fellow-Texans

Did you notice this nutjob thinks Kerry is President?

94 posted on 09/19/2004 12:01:53 AM PDT by wolicy_ponk (Kerry, follow me no closer than 1000 yards, or I'll teach you what a real purple heart is. -T.Peck)
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To: ValerieUSA; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Burkett can't tell the truth:
First, we all knew the swift boat book and attack ads were coming. I knew about them in May, for God's sake. I saw postings on this site in Early July.
By that time, the SBVfT had been active for a while. Everyone knew about it. Those gents have waited over 30 years for this payback.
On the one hand, the Kerry team wanted to wait it out and say nothing and play the good guy role.
That's such an outright, baldfaced lie it's unbelievable. Kerry et al have used nothing but underhanded and negative tactics since before the primaries. When the SBVfT stuff got press, he spun out, he went nuts (to borrow a Sam Kinison phrase). At the convention he trumped up his Vietnam service, and shot himself in the foot again with his statements about body armor. He is, quite simply, either the simplest simpleton ever to run for president, or he's arrogant beyond description, counting on the people to be utterly stupid with a short attention span. Or maybe both.
Most of this was grounded in the same responsive approach Gore and Dukakis had used and it was obvious both that Bush would use this approach and the effect it would have. So why didn't we learn from the lessons?
Maybe because he's lying? The Kerry campaign has never had anything but a "me-too" message. Kerry seems in favor of everything Bush is in favor of (other than abortion), but says he'll do it better. He's even said he'll leave the troops in Iraq until 2008. Everything else is an incoherent, continual attack based on air from between Michael Moore's cheeks.

And in 2000, Gore used that DUI late hit in order to salvage his campaign, saving it for that moment. And then in his "responsive approach" he tried to steal the election with illegal, selective recounts in Florida using his Dim henchmen/women on the Fla Supreme Court.

Dukakis had a mommy in show business (and had himself appeared on "St Elsewhere") and was from "Massachusetts, the state which has never failed to elect a Kennedy, no matter how many women they kill or rape." [Drew Carey]
Then we overestimated the impact and level of commitment of new found supporters gained from the convention. We began to believe our own press, and Kerry goes on vacation.
Kerry didn't go on vacation, he went into seclusion, in order to avoid media contact. His numbers stop sinking whenever he stops talking. But they don't rise. GWB was gaining strength before the convention, gained from the convention, and I expect will gain even more from the two debates.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

95 posted on 09/19/2004 12:02:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=napalminthemorning)
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To: Wissa

Maybe it would be easier to do this:

The way Burkett wrote it:

but we don't have the passion for a fight. And that's what is about to get the election tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.

The way it should have been written:

but we don't have the passion for a fight, and that's what is about to get the election tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.


96 posted on 09/19/2004 12:09:04 AM PDT by HannaUSA
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To: starvingstudent
Is this really the email he sent???

Well, yes. This actually may or could or might or possibly be a forged version, but we know it contains the content of what was in the original Yahoo posting.

At least that's what an 86-year-old Yahoo lurker tells us.

97 posted on 09/19/2004 12:12:58 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: ambrose

it looks like your avg everyday post on the DU.

What did he really say?????


98 posted on 09/19/2004 12:14:33 AM PDT by danamco
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To: M1911A1
Is this guy for real? This is too perfect.

Haven't you read the Dem spin columns? He's a Karl Rove plant.

99 posted on 09/19/2004 12:15:01 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Anything that looks bad for the Dems stems from Rove, don'tcha know?

I'm prepared to believe the post is real, after reading some of the other goofball stuff posted by and about Burkett on some of the Yahoo groups linked from the site listed by Ambrose.

If this is Rather's source, he is a bigger idiot than I thought possible. Why would he take the fall for this Yahoo? (pun intended)

I think there is more to this, and it probably involves his daughter. 60 Minutes has survived using forged memos before. Granted, the story wasn't so big, but Rather is commiting professional suicide rather than admit that he was duped by a whackjob. He may be trying to protect his daughter.

What an odd, bitter bunch these Texas Dems seem to be.


100 posted on 09/19/2004 12:24:48 AM PDT by M1911A1
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