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CA: Governor vetoes bills on minimum wage, mega-stores, drug testing
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 9/18/04 | Steve Lawrence - AP

Posted on 09/18/2004 4:10:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Torie
>>>>Guns don't sell in urban California. Few of us there give a damn one way or the other. It is a waste of time. Just move on.

Wonderful! Just screw the 2nd amendment.

21 posted on 09/18/2004 4:43:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Torie

The Second Amendment isn't about hunting - it's about the God-given right to self-protection.


22 posted on 09/18/2004 4:45:48 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Wanted: Pajamas designed with purple-hearted bandaids.)
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To: NormsRevenge

GOOD MOVE ARNIE.


23 posted on 09/18/2004 4:46:41 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: .38sw
I treat the gun issue on the public policy merits. I am not interested in Constutional cant on it. The way I see it, is that at present, what is in play, doesn't matter one way or the other. Few use assault weapons, and banning them achieves next to nothing, and it is an irrelevant symbolic issue. The same with most of the gun issue. Sure some give it high salience, but not me, and not too many other Californians either. We have other more salient stuff to worry about.

And there you have it.

24 posted on 09/18/2004 4:46:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Anyone know what the process is to override the vetoes?


25 posted on 09/18/2004 4:48:46 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ

Just round up two thirds of the legislature. The Dems are a bit short of two thirds, so veto = interment.


26 posted on 09/18/2004 4:50:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: SALChamps03
Supply and demand should determine the wage level.

In a market economy, yes. But these proposals come to us via the Ministry of Democratic Activism who've yet to recognize the failures of other centrally planned economies.

Add to that the hemmoraging border of labor surpluses headed our way each year and their fantasy of a working class nirvana collapses even sooner.

A free market economy can handle such inconveniences, theirs cannot. In either case though, please pass the Hamburger Help Us.

27 posted on 09/18/2004 4:52:02 PM PDT by budwiesest (I don't watch women's volleyball anymore, I study it.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Many who consider themselves 'conservatives' do not realize that the random drug testing by schools continues the move by education bureaucrats (in concert, in this case, with a predatory drug-testing industry) to further remove parents from decision-making regarding the raising of their children.

THe right has bought into this based on a claim by the industry that it is all about helping kids and fighting drugs. What it IS about is finding a market for their product -- which has been available to parents for many years, but has been overwhelming rejected by the marketplace, They are seeking through legislation, and using government (OUR MONEY) grants to force the use of their unwanted product.

This is a major scam, including a huge lobbying effort in DC (and the influence of the drug companies on the WH).

28 posted on 09/18/2004 5:15:42 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: NormsRevenge
$7.75??????? You're Kidding me... I make 6.25 as a lifeguard and at my new job i will be making 7/hr and thats good for where I live.

but i guess things are more expensive in Californ-IA
29 posted on 09/18/2004 5:34:18 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: NormsRevenge

Today, Arnold is a little bit less of a RINO.


30 posted on 09/18/2004 6:28:11 PM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: upchuck

how about somewhere between a Rino and a Greeno.. a Grino ;-?


31 posted on 09/18/2004 8:04:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Arnold is better than the alternative would have been. Fiscally, he is a conservative. He is the closest thing the state has had to Ronaldus Magnus in a long, long time. Guns are not the only issue out there. Bite the bullet, (So to speak) stop acting like girlymen, and learn to deal with it.


32 posted on 09/18/2004 8:14:19 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (John Kerry-Flip, Flop, Floundering, and Fried)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I full well understand what was in office previously , so don't think the desire to support him is not there, but facts speak for themself. He rolled for the status quo and borrowed to the hilt to keep the ship afloat. Where were the cuts cuts cuts?

If the deficits are not addressed thru cuts cuts cuts, all the girlie man hype won't amount to a hill of beans for the taxpayers of this state in the future.

FRankly, imo, we are fighting a stalling action 'til enough legislative 'Rats are sent packing this November to have a realistic chance of turning the state around.


33 posted on 09/18/2004 8:34:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: DixieOklahoma

Check this out for OUTRAGEOUR minimum wages:

http://www.acorn.org/acorn10/livingwage/shortwins.php



How does $12.25 (you can pay them $10.50, if you also give them health insurance) sound for workers washing dishes and making up beds in hotels in the coastal zone of Santa Monica, CA?

"In May, the Santa Monica City Council passed a living wage law requiring that employers operating within the city's Coastal Zone tourist district with revenues of more than $5 million a year provide a living wage to employees. The wage rate is set at $10.50 per hour for those employees who receive health benefits. Employees who do not get health benefits will receive an additional $1.75 per hour, increasing to $2.50 an hour in 2002. The ordinance is a first in that it covers employers who have no direct financial relationship with the city (Santa Monicans Allied for Responsible Tourism)."


34 posted on 09/18/2004 9:28:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Glad to hear it but hope the loyal Republicans among us don't see his moves as conservative. They are not.

The fact that Schwarzenegger did not vote as a communist should be of consolation to no one. Schwarzenegger is a liberal businessman. No better no worse.

The aim of this forum and conservatives in general should be to forcefully separate Schwarzenegger from the trappings of power and replace him with a conservative.

35 posted on 09/19/2004 7:14:57 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Ed_in_NJ
What it IS about is finding a market for their product -- which has been available to parents for many years, but has been overwhelming rejected by the marketplace, They are seeking through legislation, and using government (OUR MONEY) grants to force the use of their unwanted product.

I think some parents want their kids tested but never had the backbone to impose it themselves at home; in their cowardice they're happy to impose their parenting choices on all families. Pathetic.

36 posted on 09/20/2004 9:08:35 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

Well, gun safety ought to be taught to all children in public school (it used to be!) That would take away the "forbidden fruit" aspect and instill the right mindset for adulthood...SSZ


37 posted on 09/20/2004 9:22:48 AM PDT by szweig
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To: Know your rights

Yes, and also some think "MY kid doesn't need to be tested, but all the OTHERS do!"


38 posted on 09/20/2004 6:44:21 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ ((considering upgrading to pajamas))
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To: FairOpinion
How does $12.25 (you can pay them $10.50, if you also give them health insurance) sound for workers washing dishes and making up beds in hotels in the coastal zone of Santa Monica, CA?

I suspect that there will be no hotel rooms available in Santa Monica at any price very soon.
39 posted on 09/20/2004 6:59:00 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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