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Soviet Union is back; the Cold War resumes...
Financial Sense ^ | Nyquist

Posted on 09/18/2004 12:16:08 AM PDT by pook

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To: Stellar Dendrite
Nyquist

This guy is probably the only one, after Brezhnev, who wants US nuked by the old USSR.
Your link goes back to '75.

IT IS 2004 - WAKE UP!!!

81 posted on 09/18/2004 2:09:50 AM PDT by BigSkyAb
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To: CWOJackson
Well let's just look at one of those Nyquist claims to believe and uses for his evidence.

Anna Politkovskaya

"There's a hint by Moore of the second reason for Bush's proximity to Putin. Both of them are from the "Cold War" generation. They were brought up in this style, the traditional "a bash on the head and keep it in your hat" is nearer and dearer to them than tolerance. Certainly, this is the plague of that generation, which is lost without opposition. They have no culture of creation. And, after a decade of dancing with joy at the fall of the Berlin Wall, it's suddenly boring without an enemy. The most improvised material in this sense was the Islamic world. First - (changing) the face of its individual representatives. Later, the exclusion area began to be enlarged. They began to convert the Islamic world into the strategic enemy of the Christian world. But in reacton to this transformation, and in connection with the methods used in this fight, even those Moslems - who had nothing against non-Moslems and lived in the tradition of tolerance - became the supporters of fight against Bush and Putin."

Gee, she sounds kind of like...you, actually. Only she includes Bush.

82 posted on 09/18/2004 2:22:27 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: pook

There are grains of truth mixed with misdirected paranoia.
There is not much point trying to separate the fact from fiction.
And it is pretty much the same thing Dims have been saying about George W. Bush.
(son of a former CIA director)
As long as the US can blow up the rest of the earth,
the threat from nation-states is obsolete.


83 posted on 09/18/2004 2:24:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: MarMema
LOL! You keep trying to twist and squire away from the issue. Even before the terrorists attacks in Russia, your so-called Christian Putin was illegally selling embargoed weapons to Iraq...weapons that are still be used to kill our troops.

Your response...none.

Even before Russia latest crisis, which Putin is using to rollback democracy in Russia, your so-called Christian Putin was giving missile technology to North Korean...to a sick, evil, twisted dictator. Putin's excuse? North Korean intends to use it for peaceful purposes.

Your response...none.

Before Putin's self made crisis he was giving nuclear technology to Iran, a nation that is currently making threats directly at America.

Your response...Micheal Moore, Serbia BS and a total avoidance of the actions of your so-called Christian Putin...arms merchant to dictators and evil islamic regimes.

84 posted on 09/18/2004 2:28:12 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MarMema

Some Christian values Putin has...not.


85 posted on 09/18/2004 2:29:12 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Give me putin over any islamic.


86 posted on 09/18/2004 2:30:07 AM PDT by Kornev
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To: Kornev
"Give me putin over any islamic."

The problem is Comrade Putin is arming the islamics and other fanatical regimes.

87 posted on 09/18/2004 2:32:05 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

True, he's gotta stop the iran insanity.


88 posted on 09/18/2004 2:33:11 AM PDT by Kornev
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To: MarMema
So, do you deny that Putin supplied missile technology to North Korea?

Do you deny that anyone with any intelligence whatsoever would recognize the North Korean dictator as a twisted evil monster?

Do you deny that Putin gave nuclear reator technology and assistance to Iran, an unstable Islamic Extremist nation with a history of anger at the United States?

Do you deny that Putin illegally sold embargoed weapons to Iraq that are still be using to kill our troops?

And how do you square those actions with Christianity?

89 posted on 09/18/2004 2:35:49 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Kornev
If he had an interest in world peace and stability, yes, he would defuse the situation in Iran that he created.

He would also do something about that psychotic despot in North Korea with advanced "peaceful space exploration" technology that he gave them.

It's too late for him to do anything to remove the weapons he illegally sold to Iraq.

90 posted on 09/18/2004 2:37:57 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

I already replied to your posts. You should try rereading it, perhaps.


91 posted on 09/18/2004 2:38:55 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Exactly the answer I expected from you...none.


92 posted on 09/18/2004 2:39:11 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MarMema
So, do you deny that Putin supplied missile technology to North Korea?

Do you deny that anyone with any intelligence whatsoever would recognize the North Korean dictator as a twisted evil monster?

Do you deny that Putin gave nuclear reator technology and assistance to Iran, an unstable Islamic Extremist nation with a history of anger at the United States?

Do you deny that Putin illegally sold embargoed weapons to Iraq that are still be using to kill our troops?

And how do you square those actions with Christianity?

93 posted on 09/18/2004 2:40:29 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

With the Russians, it's a case of the enemy of the enemy is my friend..

Same old crap.. They're out for themselves, we're out for us.

I think we can make a strong case of uniting against a common enemy, islamic terrorism.

Who cares about the rest for now.


94 posted on 09/18/2004 2:42:35 AM PDT by Kornev
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To: CWOJackson

I said what I wanted to say.


95 posted on 09/18/2004 2:44:19 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema; CWOJackson
"You're here on a mission to destroy Putin's/Russia's reputation."

Putin and his Foreign Minister led the Russian government to assist Saddam Hussein's regime with illegal funds and arms trade, and they continue to assist the Iranian terrorists, Syrian terrorists, Hezbollah, Hamas and other groups against us while refusing to acknowledge that those are terrorist groups. Putin has also begun to shut down democratic processes there and to take control of them. He has shown no true desire to stop terrorist attacks against his people while perpetuating his obsession with making Chechnya part of a new Soviet Union.

We didn't make his reputation for him. He earns it, himself. It's up to him as to whether he wants to change his ways and stop opposing the real War on Terrorism by sending votes to the UN in favor of doing so.
96 posted on 09/18/2004 2:45:55 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Kornev
"I think we can make a strong case of uniting against a common enemy, islamic terrorism."

Knowing your enemies is seldom that easy. In comparison, the threat to our nation and the world from the old Soviet Union was greater then the threat from a stateless enemy.

Putin, long lamenting the collapse of his beloved Soviet Union, is now taking the steps to make himself supreme dictator of a new Soviet empire; aligned with Germany and France.

As long as he stays on that road to total control he is a danger that cannot be ignored.

97 posted on 09/18/2004 2:48:54 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
The old USSR never toppled our buildings. Or dared attack the USA in any meaningful way.


If anything, the USA got close to them in Vietnam and Korea. Proxy wars, of course, but neither side got their homelands blown up.

islamic terrorism is the #1 enemy of the modern world. Even a Putin derived renewed USSR wouldn't be such a threat. They'd still have something to lose. islam just has mecca and medina, which everyone considers 'off limits', so there is NO deterrence.
98 posted on 09/18/2004 2:51:54 AM PDT by Kornev
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To: CWOJackson

Please bear in mind that at the same time Putin was selling arms for urgently needed cash, the Clinton administration was upgrading Chinese weaponry for urgently coveted cash. Violation of UN sanctions was currency gor Europe...Putin must have face enormous pressure to get with the program or risk his hold on the country. Thereis a large sentiment for the old CCCP, Putin must transition carefully, or risk the collapse of what nascent freedoms have sprouted there. Without support from the West, Putin's prospects are bleak. Russia, and the world, can do much worse.


99 posted on 09/18/2004 2:52:14 AM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: MarMema
"I said what I wanted to say."

Yes, nothing. You cannot reconcile the proven actions of Putin with what you claim is his Christian faith. Christians do not arm murderous dictators with missile technology. Christians do not supply rogue nations with nuclear technology. Christians do not illegally supply embargoed weapons to nations that they themselves agreed to place sanctions on.

100 posted on 09/18/2004 2:52:56 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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