Chess player Garry Kasparov blames Putin for destroying democracy in Russia

Pravda.ru ^ | 09/16/2004

[CWOJackson]

"I must have been mistaken to think you were interested in truth."

Thanks for the setup, but it's already so obvious...YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

[A. Pole]

Such an attitude severely hampered operations -- particularly in Chechnya, where Kvashnin regularly countermanded the initiative of even low-level commanders -- leading some in the military to wonder just whose side Kvashnin was on.

Wow! Good find.

[MarMema]

Of course we have Dan Rather to tell the truth in this country and the press here is impeccable. No documents forged or anything.

[Destro]

Yup. Anyway I posted the pics to show that diplomacy is not a clean profession to answer your gift question.

[Just mythoughts]

Agreed!

[CWOJackson]

You have a pleasant evening, I'm off for a shower and some reading. There's something about talking with Soviet sympathizers that always makes me want to shower afterwords.

Keep up the good fight and when you have time, read some of the articles I posted. Do keep in mind, the Wall Street Journal, STRATFOR and other such publications are all disreputable sources; they don't have the credibility of Pravda or CBS.

[Just mythoughts]

Putin sent the horses, either last Jan or the Jan before, after the mental "Il" threaten the US with nuclear.

So please try and keep things in prospective.

[Just mythoughts]

Thanks, funny thing is that the Bible has plenty to say about that other religion, since the beginning, Soviet Communism. Guess what "BABEL" shows up there too. (It means confusion).

[Destro]

and Russia had spy bugs set up in North Korean plants for the State dept.

[A. Pole]

Thanks, funny thing is that the Bible has plenty to say about that other religion, since the beginning, Soviet Communism. Guess what "BABEL" shows up there too. (It means confusion).

If you do not trust translations, I assume that you read Bible in original Greek and Hebrew?

[MarMema]

There is something about people who support chechen child killers and rapists that makes me not want to eat dinner.
Enjoy your shower.

[Just mythoughts]

"If you do not trust translations, I assume that you read Bible in original Greek and Hebrew?"

What ever do you mean???? translations, what they do not accurately reflect what was written in the ORIGINAL, you mean you know what is actually written????

[MarMema]

President Bush has not yet decided he will pick the "governors".

Beslan has not happened here either.

[A. Pole]

What ever do you mean???? translations, what they do not accurately reflect what was written in the ORIGINAL, you mean you know what is actually written????

Actually many passages are hard or not possible to translate accurately. That is why I took some Greek (New Testament is more important for me) so with the dictionary and a reliable (some idiots publish translations from KJV into Greek!) interlinear translation I can figure out the original meaning.

For plain political news, bablefish might be sufficient.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"...he's America's enemy."

JUST ON FOX - France and Russia gave assistance to terrorists in Iraq after the war started
Fox News | Just out | Bill Gertz

Posted on 09/09/2004 1:42:11 PM EDT by AWestCoaster

Linda Vester interviewed Bill Gertz on his new book 'Treachery.'

Some of the findings:

French government looked other way while arms dealers provided weapons to terrorists BEFORE and AFTER the Iraq war started.

French passports were provided to certain Iraqis to help them out of the country.

Russia provided terrorists expertise to jam our GPS bombs. Pres. Bush called Putkin to tell him to knock it off or Russians in Iraq would be potential targets.

That's right, he's America's enemy.

They sold nuclear components to Iran as well.

[MarMema]

That is why I took some Greek

Did you? I just signed up for Greek classes. Am really looking forward to it.

[kosta50]

In Russia Chess master Kasporov is free to challenge the Kremlin without fear of jail....in America Chess Master Bobby Fischer hunted down around world and is to go to jail for defying State Dept travel policy

Now, you expect the public to know things they don't see and hear on Fox and Retards? Gees!

[Luis Gonzalez]

There are reasons why people hate Russian totalitarianism:

62 million people killed

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The Soviet Union exemplifies the dictum that government is a mechanism by which depraved people legitimize their depravity. As an all-powerful state, the Soviet government attracted the most depraved people who then unleashed the worst depravity. Stalin is unique only in surpassing all others in this regard.

The Soviet death toll- those murdered in cold blood by people working for the Soviet government- exceeds, nearly doubles, the combined total of people killed in all of the 20th century's wars.

• Millions were sent to the Gulags, Soviet concentration camps, where perhaps 20% of all prisoners died. Countless others suffered the drug-torture of the so-called "psychiatric hospitals," where resistance was legal proof of the need for more "treatment."

• In 1919, hundreds of thousands of Don Cossacks were slaughtered in wholesale murder.

• In the 1930s, the Soviet secret police issued death quotas to its regional departments. The quotas were filled with indiscriminate killing. Mothers who came to police headquarters to inquire about their arrested sons could be taken outside and shot to help fill the quotas. Children were murdered for the crimes of their parents.

• From 1932-1933, five million Ukrainian peasants died in forced starvation. The Soviet government stationed troops to actively prevent anyone from escaping the famine. Doctors and relief supplies were kept out by force. The famine was a long, deliberate plan to make people dead by creating and maintaining conditions in which they could not obtain food.

• From 1930-1937, Soviets carried out the systematic murder of 6,500,000 "kulaks," lower middle class peasants.

• From 1937-1938, perhaps a million Communists were murdered by Stalin in the Great Terror.

• In 1949, deportation and genocide of some 50,000-60,000 Estonians.

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  Soviet democide from 1917-1991
  Total:	61,911,000
  Terror:	8,298,000
  Deportations:	4,349,000+
  Concentration Camps:	39,464,000
  Forced Famine	7,833,000

  (death totals for concentration camps include transit deaths.)

  Period

  Years

  Total killed

  Civil War

  From 1917

  3,284,000
  

  Terror:	750,000
  Concentration Camps:	34,000
  Forced Famine :	2,500,000

  NEP

  1923

  2,200,000

  Collectivization

  1929

  11,440,000
  

  Terror:	1,733,000
  Deportations:	1,400,000
  Concentration Camps:	3,306,000
  Forced Famine :	5,000,000

  Great Terror

  1936

  4,345,000
  

  Terror:	1,000,000
  Deportations:	65,000
  Concentration Camps:	3,280,000

  Pre-WWII

  1939

  5,104,000
  

  Terror:	1,932,000
  Deportations:	283,000
  Concentration Camps:	2,889,000

  World War II

  1941

  13,053,000
  

  Terror:	1,257,000
  Deportations:	1,036,000
  Concentration Camps:	10,761,000

  Post-War

  1946

  15,613,000
  

  Terror:	1,376,000
  Deportations:	1,557,000
  Concentration Camps:	12,348,000

  Post-Stalin

  1954

  6,872,000
  

  Terror:	250,000
  Deportations:	8,000
  Concentration Camps:	6,613,000

[Luis Gonzalez]

Fisher call Kasparov "Garry the Jew".

[MarMema]

Like all Russia haters, you forget to differentiate between Russia and the Soviet Union.