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Ex-Guardsman Is Said to Be a CBS Source (Hurricane Dan Makes Landfall In Baird, TX)
The New York Times ^ | 9/16/04 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 09/16/2004 4:17:04 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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1 posted on 09/16/2004 4:17:05 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: hispanarepublicana

Not only are the documents forged, but the important points made in them are clear fabrications. Specifically, the two important points, harped on endlessly by CBS and the other liberal media, are:

1. Bush disobeyed a direct order of his commanding officer. The memo states that Bush is ordered to appear for a physical on May 15. Bush did not do so, and the media concludes that Bush disobeyed the order, and so was insubordinate. There is only one problem: It did not happen. Other pilots point out that pilots were not ordered to appear for a physical. The deadline for the physical was established by Air Force rules, and was the pilot's birthday. The pilot was required by rule to appear for a physical every year on or before his birthday. Bush's birthday was July 6, so it would not have been appropriate to order him to appear for a physical on May 15. Of course, Bush never appeared for a July 6 physical either, but that's because he had already transferred out of the Texas Air National Guard by that time. The obvious conclusion is that the part of the memo which orders Bush to appear for a physical is a fabrication.

2. Bush's commanding officer was asked to sugar coat Bush's record and give him a rating even though Bush was absent. In the memos, Killian expresses consternation that he is being asked to rate Bush even though Bush was absent. The implication which is drawn by the media is that Bush's performance was substandard. The implication drawn by the Democrats is that Bush was AWOL. However, that aspect of the memos is also a clear fabrication. The reaons is that Killian had no reason to be consternated by Bush's absence because Killian himself had already signed an order (which is clearly authentic, and looks completely different from the forged orders), which authorized Bush to transfer out of the Texas Air National Guard to the Alabama National Guard. So why would he now be upset that Bush was not there? It makes no sense, and was obviously a fabrication by the forger.

Dan Rather's insistence that the orders may be fake but the information is trues is itself obviously a lie. This whole episode really is worse than Watergate. It's like Watergate with a complicit media. In Watergate, most of the people went to jail because they lied to investigators or to Congress. As in Watergate, I think we need an investigation by the DOJ and by Congress, though I would suggest that we wait until after the election to get it going in earnest. No sense in risking a liberal backlash at this point in time.


2 posted on 09/16/2004 4:19:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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colleagues call a stickler for rules

TRANSLATION:

Barney Fife tries to get even; shoots self in foot

3 posted on 09/16/2004 4:19:26 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-1986)
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To: hispanarepublicana
Robert Strong, a former Guard officer interviewed on "60 Minutes,'' said documents that CBS showed to him for authentication bore a facsimile stamp of a Kinko's store in Abilene.

This is hearsay.
Don't believe it until CBS shows us the original timestamped fax.

CBS has zero credibility and nothing about this story can be believed until there is a full disclosure with real evidence from CBS.

I'm very suspicious that Burkett is being offered up as a fall guy and red herring to distract from an even more sinister conspiracy that strikes at the very heart of Kerry's campaign and the DNC headquarters.
4 posted on 09/16/2004 4:23:52 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Brilliant

It is interesting how we become like the people that we passionately hate. Dan Rather hated Nixon and now has become just like him.


5 posted on 09/16/2004 4:26:08 AM PDT by djpg
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To: hispanarepublicana
The secretary, Marian Carr Knox, said they appeared to reflect Colonel Killian's sentiments that someone might have sought to recreate from lost originals.

Of course they fail to mention that she believes that Bush is "Unfit for Command", and that she is a rabbid Kerry Kool-Aid Drinker.

6 posted on 09/16/2004 4:26:25 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

LOL....AAAANNNNNDYYYY!!


7 posted on 09/16/2004 4:27:03 AM PDT by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: hispanarepublicana

I think thats pretty much the Jist of it. Here we have this hero Burkette who admits he joined the Guard to stay out of the war trying to spin that accusation on to George Bush.

OH: what a tangled web we weave. Looks like the local folks are shunning Burkette,perhaps with good reason.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 4:28:20 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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"He became deputy commandant of the New Mexico Military Academy and, Mr. Moore's book said, headed training and planning for troops sent from Fort Hood, Tex., for the gulf war in 1991. Mr. Burkett said he worked on Defense Department projects for Boeing and, because the Texas Guard could not pay his civilian rate of $154 an hour, was commissioned a lieutenant colonel to revamp the Guard in 1996."

Interesting, not exactly a pauper's life.
9 posted on 09/16/2004 4:30:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Brilliant

good summation.


10 posted on 09/16/2004 4:30:05 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: stockpirate
"The secretary, Marian Carr Knox, said they appeared to reflect Colonel Killian's sentiments that someone might have sought to recreate from lost originals."

What are the odds that Burkett met with her prior to crafting the forgeries?
11 posted on 09/16/2004 4:30:54 AM PDT by maggief
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To: hispanarepublicana

Killian died in 1984. According to ms Knox, his secret file which is supossedly where these memo's came from, were destroyed atthis time, shortly after his death.

But Mr Brikett claims Killians personal secret memo's suddenly turned up in Bushes files which were being "cleansed" in 1997.

Which is it? Do we now believe ms Knox, who said they were in his person secret file lock in his desk drawer, and destroyed shortly after he died? or were they in Bushes files in the trash?

Nice try Dan, but see what happens when you lie? You loose track of them.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 4:31:50 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: counterpunch
"I'm very suspicious that Burkett is being offered up as a fall guy and red herring to distract from an even more sinister conspiracy that strikes at the very heart of Kerry's campaign and the DNC headquarters."

Well "IF" he is not then being a paragon of virtue he will surely step forward and set the record straight.
13 posted on 09/16/2004 4:32:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: djpg
Dan Rather hated Nixon and now has become just like him.

I was a member of the media and at the press conference when Nixon asked rather if he was running for office and Rather asked Nixon the same question.

AT that press conference rather instead of asking Nixon a question went into a long accusatory speech accusing Nixon of all sorts of things while offering no proof. Rather made a political speech at a press conference where he was supposedly a jouralist asking a question.

Nixon replied to the accusatory political speech by asking Rather if he was running for office. Rather certainly was not acting as a journalist asking a question at a press conference. Dumb Rather was taken aback,and could only ask Nixon the same question Nixon had asked Rather.

The only differnce between Rather reporting on Nam and Nixon and Rather reporting on Bush and the Guard is this time Rather got caught.!!!!


14 posted on 09/16/2004 4:33:26 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: maggiefluffs

I don't think that Burkett is the one who created the docs.

He knows NG stuff and would not have created these cheap fales, and with her help he could have had her create something a lot harder to detect.

I still think that we are being misdirected from the true source, the Kerry campaign.


15 posted on 09/16/2004 4:34:16 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: counterpunch
This is hearsay. Don't believe it until CBS shows us the original timestamped fax.

I agree with you. We need to be very careful with this.

But....the Kinko's records will tell the tale. They have phone records and perhaps fax records that would show documents being faxed to CBS, USA Today, the Boston Globe and, perhaps, the DNC and the Kerry campaign. If we can get at these records we can solve the riddle without a full disclosure by CBS, a disclosure that I don't expect to see in my lifetime. OTOH, USA Today could vouch for the Kinko's timestamp and that would add some credibility to the WP story.

16 posted on 09/16/2004 4:36:07 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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"The bitterness, he later said, moved him to go public with what he said he and a fellow officer, George O. Conn, witnessed one night in Austin in 1997. That was when, he said, commanders, in touch with Mr. Bush's political advisers, left documents in the trash while sanitizing the governor's service records. ."

A question comes to mind: When Burkett saw those Bush documents in that trash can, right out in front of God and everybody, why didn't he scoop them up and hold onto them? Just think; he could be waving them under our noses right now. This riff reminds me of sKerry's BS about all the atrocities he witnessed but, alas, never got around to reporting to the proper authorities!


17 posted on 09/16/2004 4:36:29 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: hispanarepublicana
And now for the latest laugh riot delusions on Memogate from the DUmmies:

Rather reported that serious questions were raised about the memos. He did not "concede" that they were "suspect."

Were the "originals" more invective? Or is trying to recall adverbatim a document from 32 years a bit of a stretch for any mind on this planet? Did Rove Inc replace the original with a censured less castigating memo?

CBS should've said. Go f*ck yourselves!

F*ck You GOP. You did Clinton, We'll do George. Even if this precious idiot wins, We'll get him Impeached. So don't worry - one way or an other, he is TOAST. Deal with it.

The documents may have been pulled out of a chimp's butt, but that don't change the truth: he was an awol ahole.

A thought. What if the memos WERE forged...by the GOP? It would make a perfect "poison plum" for Rove to insert into the discourse, causing all future talk of Bush's miserable service to be discounted as "unverifiable" and "oh, you know that's fake, right?" This would fit in with Rove's modus operandi quite well.

Does it really matter if the memo is 'real' or 'fake'?

Bravo Dan Rather DAN Thanks for having guts DAN You're A True American DAN You're A Great Patriot DAN I Could Kiss You DAN GREAT WORK

Ok how can they be fake and accuarte all at the same time? Alice please do join me in going through the looking glass And if they are fake... can we all say KARL ROVE?

18 posted on 09/16/2004 4:37:15 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (What's the Forgery, Dan!!!???)
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To: Just mythoughts

No, not a pauper's file. And a search of the Abilene Reporter News archives turns up frequent references to "Burkett Cemetery."


19 posted on 09/16/2004 4:37:29 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-1986)
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To: Just mythoughts
Well "IF" he is not then being a paragon of virtue he will surely step forward and set the record straight.

Or would his lack of virtue be used as "proof" to discredit his denial?
20 posted on 09/16/2004 4:37:41 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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