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What the hell is going on here? Or why is CBS clinging so ferociosly to this lie?
My fertile mind | 08/15/04 | me

Posted on 09/15/2004 8:10:12 PM PDT by Pharmer

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To: onyx eyes
Plain and simple. For legal reasons. You see, if and when the documents are proven to be fakes, forgeries, if you will, then c-BS and Dan Rather have to disclose their source(s). Which then opens them up to the charge of illegally influencing a presidential election. ie: watergate. Only in this case its memogate.

I agree. They never expected anyone to question the memo.
It's a new world with the Internet, and the old school Democrats aren't ready for it.
They thought their old Vince Forster trick would work again. The same guy who claims this forgery is real is the same guy who said Vince Fosters suicide note was real. It would be nice to go back and check that letter once more.

41 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Pharmer
d) Bush is a coke head just who ducked a physical with a drug test (in 1972! Before Nancy said NO) as we thought back in 2000 but now we have a paper trail!

I read on one of the hundreds of threads here on FR that this is a lie too, since they military didn't start testing for drugs until approx 1980.

42 posted on 09/15/2004 8:34:02 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Mach9
Here's a joke:

"Mr. Rather, did you type up that memo?"

"Of course not, I didn't have the balls for it."

43 posted on 09/15/2004 8:34:11 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
And, Carl Bernstein, on Hannity and Colmes, tonight. I'm sitting there wondering why this guy is supposed to be so brilliant.

I also saw Bernstein and it was plain to see that he was putting on the liberal spin. He tried to sound reasoable but I had to leave the room.

44 posted on 09/15/2004 8:34:28 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The fourth estate in this country has become a fifth column.)
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To: Paul Atreides

Carl Bernstein is still alive? I thought he was shot when he stole the horse and buggy from in front of the Plaza Hotel. Didn't his wife, Nora Ephron shoot him for having an affair when they were married. Okay, okay, I'm kidding about the shooting.


45 posted on 09/15/2004 8:34:32 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Paul Atreides

"To his credit, Dim Pat Caddell"

Caddell earned my respect tonight. Yes, we could argue with him on whether first blood was drawn attacking Clinton or Clarence Thomnas, but his anaolgy to Greek Sophistry is dead on.

A Democrat that cares more about his Country than his Party. A Democrat who cares more about his Party than his Candidate. How refreshing.


46 posted on 09/15/2004 8:35:39 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: Pharmer

All Bush has to say is the documents are phony
next question.


47 posted on 09/15/2004 8:35:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Paul Atreides

I wasn't going to go there . . . (but it's funny).


48 posted on 09/15/2004 8:36:19 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: BoBToMatoE

"well, the rumor is that CBS has a second hit story floating around in the backroom to be aired in october as its "october suprise" which pins bush as an outright coke head (that is why he did not take the physical). "

I think the 'October surprise' is on its way this week. The WaPo article mentions that the WH says there are more docs on the way. I am guessing these are the two that CBS held back but USAT had in its pdf file. One of the docs links the Lts Bush and Bath together, both of them being suspended from flying for not doing a physical. Bath was apparently kicked out for cocaine use. The inference being Bush was involved too.

IF these are the new docs they came from the same 'poisoned well' as the first, but they will bring up inference of cocaine use. This is what the DNC's "Operation Favored Son" campaign is trying to do all along.


49 posted on 09/15/2004 8:37:35 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Fenris6

When Pat said that the Republicans started the negativity with Clinton, I wanted to shout, "No, it was the Dims, with that nuke ad against Goldwater and then the decades of trashing Reagan.".


50 posted on 09/15/2004 8:37:43 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Pharmer

interesting post

there clearly appears to be an intended or tacit synchronicity between the DNC - mcawful unlawful - harkin harking - blather memo bombs and kitty kelly on cocaine to put the cherry on the top with sheifer shilling


51 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:25 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Arkinsaw
I would rather the Congress and FCC stay out of it.

This is between CBS and the American public.

Gov't actions against the press, no matter the legal particulars, is a very touchy issue. The FCC control over broadcast licenses is already an affront to free speech, and their enforcement is nothing to get excited about.

Everyone can see what is going on here. Let CBS deal with this, and the public will take its toll in the market, and CBS will adjust itself or die slowly.

From a practical standpoint it is also better to let CBS figure out how to fix this than to potentially cast them as a victim of censorship.

52 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:55 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Pharmer

But what makes you think there will be a Debate moderated by a CBS anchor?

The White House hasn't agreed to that.


53 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:58 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pharmer
It wasn't fatal

Not fatal??? It sucked the life-blood out of his campaign, he is gasping for air, and all evidence reveals no brain function.

54 posted on 09/15/2004 8:39:26 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Pharmer; Forecaster; Bartman; Nailbiter
Even if Rather admitted that he put the BS in CBS, it's too late to save his reputation with millions. Besides, once he admits that the documents are fake, he has to reveal his source, because there is no journalistic obligation to protect con artists who humiliate you. And my guess is that the source is even more embarrassing than the fraud.
I can't prove that. But who says I have to?
-- Jonah Goldberg

Some insightful reading here...

55 posted on 09/15/2004 8:39:29 PM PDT by IncPen (Every Word From Kerry's Mouth is a Dishonorable Discharge...)
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To: Lancey Howard
John Roberts of CBS

I REALLY hate conspiracy theories (tin hat on) but this is sooo blatant with the Gang off 500 ala ABC's the Note and that dude at Newsweek. To see it blow up in their faces is so rich! ;D. But we must remain vigilant (add foil to tin hat!!)

57 posted on 09/15/2004 8:40:47 PM PDT by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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To: Pharmer

It's Mapes--she's the one they're circling the wagons around. She interviewed Burkett and saw the original forgeries. Burkett gave her copies, which were then faxed to the home office, but she saw that there were "originals". I believe she is Rather's unimpeachable source, based on the fact that she saw the original forgeries. She didn't know they were forgeries at the time. That's my take.

Burkett is a retired Army National Guard systems analyst. He knows his way around a computer and he knows his way around a military style memo. And he had a motive.


58 posted on 09/15/2004 8:41:39 PM PDT by randita
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To: docman57
"Razor Strap"??!! Damn....and I thought I came from the only family that used those things!! ROTFLMAO!!

Ping pong paddles at my house.

59 posted on 09/15/2004 8:41:52 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Pharmer

I really think that Dan Rather is running the whole network over there. Andy Heyward just shows up 5 days a week to hand his testicles in a lockbox over to Dan before assuming his place in the Janitor's closet.


60 posted on 09/15/2004 8:42:13 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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