Posted on 09/15/2004 4:44:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
Let's assume for a moment that everything they say is true (not that I believe that).
35+ years ago, his dad, Congressman and/or U.N. Ambassador G.H.W. Bush (depending on exactly when), pulled some strings to get him into the TANG.
While there, he flew planes for a while, then pulled some strings of his own (by going over Killian's head), and being the son of an important leader, got lax duty.
He did a poor job at that, then disobeyed a direct order to get a physical, and disappeared for a while (I'm sure that happens all the time in the N.G., right?)
Let's assume that ALL of that is true.
Is that something that Joe and Jane Average are going to care about?
If anybody is surprised at string-pulling, they haven't been paying attention.
There's absolutely nothing in there to convince me that he's not who he says he is.
He has not claimed any hero status, or made it a centerpiece of his campaign.
So why is the other side so willing to go down in flames over this little bitty thing - even to the point of forging documents to make it appear true?
Congressman Christopher Cox Requests Congressional Hearing on CBS Memogate
Following his appearance on the Hugh Hewitt program ths evening, Congressman Cox sent a letter to Congressman Fred Upton, Chair of the Subcommittee of Telecommunications and the Internet, of which Cox is a member. The letter reads in part:
"Dear Chairman Upton:
This is a request that you commence a Subcommittee investigation into the continued use by CBS News of apparently forged documents concerning the service record of President George W. Bush intended to unfairly damage his reputation and influence the outcome of the 2004 presidential election.
In February 2001, the Energy & Commerce Committee held hearings calling the television networks to account for irresponsibly (and inaccurately) calling the outcome of the presidential election in Florida before the polls had closed. At those hearings, CBS News vowed that the competitive drive to get the story first would be subordinated to 'making sure we are correct,' given that the stakes --the outcome of the presidential election-- were so high....
Despite the growing abundance of the evidence that CBS News has aided and abetted fraud, the network has declined to reveal the source of the disputed documents. USA Today possesses the same documents, obtained independently from a person representing them to be authentic, and likewise is refusing to disclose his identity.
Given the shortness of time between now and the election which the apparent fraud is meant to influence, and the even shorter time before Congress is scheduled to adjourn, I strongly urge that the Subcommittee move with all deliberate speed to uncover the facts.
Thank you for your attention to this important matter within the Subcommittee's jurisdiction.
Sincerely,
Christopher Cox
U.S. Representative"
They are insane with hatred of George W. Bush.
They have hashed and re-hashed his service during every single race the man has ever run. They never gained traction so the "solution" was to create a paper trail to finally convince the electorate that George Bush is no better than their own scummy offerings of candidates and that George Bush is a liar.
The only issue they've ever found to push the "liar" angle was this area of his life and the "cocaine" allegation gets tucked in there, too.
But that's why---they are completely mad when it comes to painting George Bush in this manner and evidently we now see they will do anything at all in their power to push it and push it.
We know that George W. Bush was not shooting wounded vietnamese in the back. Nor was he burning villages, torturing innocent civilians or fleeing the scene when the swift boats hit an underwater mine.
Sorry for the long post. The following was released by the Kerry Campaign on 4/24 and is currently posted on their website. Reading the verbiage, questions and allegations contained in this press release, one can only conclude that this is a long planned and carefully orchestrated effort by the DNC/Kerry campaign and CBS to destroy Bush.
April 27, 2004
Key Unanswered Questions: Bushs Record In The National Guard
For Immediate Release
If George Bush wants to ask me questions about that through his surrogates, he owes America an explanation about whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. Prove it. That's what we ought to have. I'm not going to stand around and let them play games. -- John Kerry, NBC News, 4/26/04
Bush Has Said He Used No Special Treatment To Get Into The Guard. How Does He Explain The Fact That He Jumped Ahead Of 150 Applicants Despite Low Pilot Aptitude Scores?
Col. Albert Lloyd Said A Report From Alabama To Ellington Should Have Been Filed. Where Is That Report?
Why Did Bush Miss His Medical Exam In 1972?
Where Are The Complete Results Of The Required Investigation Into Bushs Absence From The Exam?
Why Did Bush Specifically Request To NOT Be Sent Overseas For Duty?
Why Does The White House Say Bush Was On Base When Bushs Superiors Had Filed A Report Saying He Was Gone For A Whole Year?
Why Is The Pentagon Under Orders To Not Discuss Bushs Record With Reporters?
Where Are Bushs Flight Logs?
Why Hasnt Bush Himself Demonstrated That He Showed Up For Service in Alabama?
Bush Has Said He Used No Special Treatment To Get Into The Guard. How Does He Explain The Fact That He Jumped Ahead Of 150 Applicants Despite Low Pilot Aptitude Scores?
There was no special treatment.
--Then-Gov. George W. Bush [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
FACT: With Family Connection, Bush Got Coveted Slot in Texas Guard Shortly After Graduating from College.
A family friend of Bushs father pulled strings to secure Bushs spot; Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard after his student deferment ran out when he graduated from Yale in 1968. Before he graduated, Bush personally visited Col. Walter Buck Staudt -- the commander of the Texas Air National Guard -- to talk about the Guard. After Bush met with Staudt, he applied and was quickly accepted -- despite a waiting list of over 150 applicants. Staudt recommended Bush for a direct appointment, which allowed Bush to become a second lieutenant right out of basic training without having to go though officer candidate school. The direct appointment also cleared the way for a position in pilot training school. [New York Times, 9/27/99; Houston Chronicle, 10/10/92; Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99]
FACT: Bush Scored in 25th Percentile on Pilot Aptitude Test. When Bush applied for the Guard, his score on the Air Force pilot aptitude section, one of five on the test, was in the 25th percentile, the lowest allowed for would-be fliers. [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
FACT: No Shortage of Pilots in Texas Guard. Although a Bush spokesman claimed Bush was fast-tracked because the Guard needed pilots, Charles C. Shoemake, a chief of personnel in the Texas Guard from 1972 to 1980 remembered no such shortage. We had so many people coming in who were super-qualified, Shoemake said. Texas Guard Historian Tom Hail said there was no apparent need to fast-track applicants. Ive never heard of that, he said. Generally they did that for doctors only, mostly because we needed extra flight surgeons. [Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99] Col. Albert Lloyd Said A Report From Alabama To Ellington Should Have Been Filed. Where Is That Report?
FACT: Col. Lloyd: Guard Records Should Include Evidence Of Alabama Service. Lloyd also said he did not know whether Bush performed duty in Alabama. If he did, his drill attendance should have been certified and sent to Ellington, and there would have been a record. [Boston Globe, 5/23/00; AP, 6/24/00]
FACT: White Houses Own Expert Said Bush Should Have Done More. According to the Globe, the White House included with the documents a memorandum from a Texas Air National Guard personnel specialist stating that the documents prove that Bush had a satisfactory year for retirement/retention purposes between May 27, 1972, and May 26, 1973. But that specialist, retired Lieutenant Colonel Albert C. Lloyd Jr., acknowledged in an interview last night that he evaluated Bush using the lower of two measures for rating Guard service. Guardsmen, he said, needed to serve more days to meet minimum-training requirements than to meet the lower threshold to receive retirement credit for the year. Should he have done more? Yes, he should have, Lloyd said of Bush, who was a fighter-interceptor pilot. Did he have to? No. [Boston Globe, 2/11/04] Why Did Bush Miss His Medical Exam In 1972?
FACT: Bush Was Suspended From Flight Duty For Failing To Take Mandated Medical Exam.
On September 29, 1972, Bush was officially suspended from flying for missing his annual medical examination. The orders note that Bushs suspension is authorized under the guidelines presented in Air Force Manual 35-12 Para 2-29m, which reads that Bushs local commander will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination. [Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 Sept 72; AFM 35-13, Para 2-29m] Where Are The Complete Results Of The Required Investigation Into Bushs Absence From The Exam?
FACT: The order suspending Bush from flight duty stated: Verbal orders of the Comdr on 1 Aug 72 suspending 1STLT George W. Bush
from flying status are confirmed
Reason for Suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination. Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13. [Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 September 1972, emphasis added]
Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13: When a Rated Officer Fails To Accomplish a Medical Examination Prescribed by AFM 160-1
(1)The local commander who has authority to convene a Flying Evaluation Board will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination. After reviewing the findings of the investigation, the local commander may convene a Flying Evaluation Board or forward through command channels a detailed report of the circumstances which resulted in the officers failure to accomplish a medical examination, along with a recommendation that the suspension be removed. (2) The individuals major command will forward the report along with the command recommendation to USAFMPC/DPMAJD, Randolph AFB TX 78148 for final determination. [Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13, emphasis added] Why Did Bush Specifically Request NOT To Be Sent Overseas For Duty?
FACT: Bushs Application Indicated Bush Did Not Volunteer for Overseas Duty. On Bushs application to the 147th Fighter Group at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush was asked what his Area Assignment Preferences were. Bush checked the box beside Do Not Volunteer for overseas duty. [Application for Extended Duty With The United States Air Force, 5/27/68] Why Does The White House Say Bush Was On Base When Bushs Superiors Had Filed A Report Saying He Was Gone For A Whole Year?
FACT: Bushs Superiors Were Unable to Evaluate Him for a Full Year, Saying he Has Not Been Observed at This Unit
May 2, 1973: Bushs superior officers William D. Harris Jr. and Jerry B. Killian, wrote on his yearly evaluation form, Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report, and that a civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non flying status with the 187 Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama. [AF-77, 2 May 73, emphasis added]
But the White House Claims Bush was on Base the Same Day Superiors Filed Report.
White House release says Bush was paid on May 2, 1973, the very day his superiors reported that Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report. [2nd Q 1973 pay record]
FACT: Bushs Superior Officer Says He Would Have Known If Bush Had Reported for Duty.
November 12, 1973: Rufus G. Martin signed a report on Bushs evaluation, saying Bush was Not rated for the period 1 May 72 through 30 April 73. [AF-77a, 12 Nov 73, emphasis added]
Boston Globe: But retired colonel Martin, the unit's former administrative officer, said he too thought Bush had been in Alabama for that entire year. Harris and Killian, he said, would have known if Bush returned to duty at Ellington. [Boston Globe, 5/23/00, emphasis added]
Why Is The Pentagon Under Orders Not To Discuss Bushs Record With Reporters?
FACT: Freedom of Information Officers Under Orders From Senior Pentagon Officials To Ignore Requests on Bush Files. According to the Spokane Spokesman-Review, at the National Guard Bureau, now headed by a Bush appointee from Texas, officials last week said they were under orders not to answer questions. The bureau's chief historian said he couldn't discuss questions about Bush's military service on orders from the Pentagon. If it has to do with George W. Bush, the Texas Air National Guard or the Vietnam War, I can't talk with you, said Charles Gross, chief historian for the National Guard Bureau in Washington, D.C. Rose Bird, Freedom of Information Act officer for the bureau, said her office stopped taking records requests on Bush's military service in mid-February and is directing all inquiries to the Pentagon. She would not provide a reason. Air Force and Texas Air National Guard officials did not respond to written questions about the issue. James Hogan, a records coordinator at the Pentagon, said senior Defense Department officials had directed the National Guard Bureau not to respond to questions about Bush's military records. [Spokane Spokesman-Review, 3/14/04, emphasis added]
I must admit that if it hadn't been for the fact that Dan Rather used these forged memos, I would never have studied the actual facts to find out why all those allegations by the Democrats are nothing but a bunch of lies.
You just keep thinking that Howie. All the way to November 3rd.
They have nothing else to run on thats why the Dems are sticking to this, Kerrys a BORE and He's DULL, watching the grass grow is more interesting than watching a Kerry Speach! Besides that Kerry won't tell anyone how he plans to go about doing the few things he has mentioned in his campaign. He(Kerry) said the Educational system is a mess and needs to be fixed, but wont tell how he plans to fix it just says he will.
So, my theory (grab your TF hat): Hitlery had the documents made up and leaked to the Kerry campaign (knowing that 60 Minutes had been working on the story for four years and must by now be desperate for documents to substansiate their premise that Bush cheated or whatever). Carville et.al. were there to agrue for giving the the documents to CBS. The rest is history. The last step will be to leak proof that the Kerry campaign supplied the documents to CBS.
Would agree they are pretty hokey, but your comment has one big flaw: CBS fell for it. They were obviously good enough forgeries to trick CBS, so they weren't so bad that it had to be a plant.
It's a long strategy, you see...
long term strategy...I meant to say that.
Carville will leak the source that in a few weeks, say mid October.
We're having way TOO MUCH FUN!
The 'some' quoted in the article are misinformed. McAuliffe is not a roaring hypocrite, he is a roaring idiot.
In the face of all of this Machiavellian cleverness from the fool, Bush will always be running on his record as President and Lurch will always be running on whatever agenda he tries to set, plus his record.
Most people find Kerry to be an imperious snobby wierdo and Bush to be a misspoken spiritual patriotic American cowboy.
LOL
This is such a lame plan. There will be a new DNC chairman next year after they get their a** handed to them in November.
I think CBS (Rather) is obsessed to the point that they barely checked on the documents AT ALL. Their arogance and ignorance blinded them to what would happen when the fakes were exposed. They didn't think talk radio, FOX News, etc. would report on the fakes without absolute proof they were fake, and didn't count on FR and the bloggers being so persistent.
What did Hitlery have to lose? If CBS didn't use them, oh well, on to the next "destroy Kerry" plan.
I don't understand the DNC talking heads saying the SBVT's published lies.......
I have lost count of this being repeated over and over and no host - radio or TV - is calling them on it! Why aren't they paying attention? Are they just concentrating on what they want to say next and not listening to the person spouting this nonsense?
Well, I have to agree that the documents were bad, but I don't think they were so bad that the only possible explanation was that they were a plant. Rather fell for it, and whoever gave them to Rather probably believed he would because he himself thought the forgery was pretty good.
I don't think Hillary is trying to destroy Kerry. He's doing it all by himself.
"I don't understand why, when the RATS say the Swiftie statements are lies, no one bats them down! It is infuriating to hear this over and over, and no one that I see or hear has the
Bump to focus on the real sources - Burkett is not the smoking gun.
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