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Russia rejects Powell's criticism, joins forces with Israel
World Tribune ^
| Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Posted on 09/15/2004 10:22:50 AM PDT by priceofreedom
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To: priceofreedom
Powell should STFU.
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posted on
09/15/2004 10:38:10 AM PDT
by
BureaucratusMaximus
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
To: xm177e2
"The countries will share intelligence and Israel will teach Russian forces how to fight a counter-insurgency. The story says nothing about Russia teaching Israel about how to get stuck in a boondoggle occupation and then back out after public outcry--the Israelis learned about that in Lebanon."
Please, of course the story says nothing about Israel taking on a "russian" reputation. HOWEVER, one cannot ignore HISTORY.
Putin first makes nice nice to Israel and then Putin announces he will choose regional governors, no more "free" elections.
We are talking about the man who for a birthday present sent that "MENTAL" IL of N.Korea horses. HELLO!!!
Sorry but Putin Inc., lost out BIG TIME using Saddam and that UN "OIL for rotten Food" program, so they are moving along making friends influencing people.
WHO will be left with the TAB????
To: BureaucratusMaximus; All
"Israel and Russia also agreed to expand their intelligence exchange, particularly in the area of Islamic insurgency movements, officials said."
for me this was the key quote. even the Mooslims will understant that this means them.
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posted on
09/15/2004 10:40:29 AM PDT
by
priceofreedom
(On A Roadmap To Hell)
To: priceofreedom
Well, Powell. Maybe if we have two plane crashes, a subway blow up and an elementary school slaughtered all in one week, then you too will take the war on terror seriously.
To: priceofreedom
"Israel and Russia also agreed to expand their intelligence exchange, particularly in the area of Islamic insurgency movements, officials said."
"for me this was the key quote. even the Mooslims will understant that this means them."
Putin has no ability to take these terrorists on, "IF" he did he would not be taking the actions he is.
I do not think you are aware of WHO foots this bill for Israel to do what it does.
Fox News had a report yesterday that WE taxpayers funded the settlements into Gaza and it would be WE taxpayers that fund whatever happens next.
NOW this being the case seems to me Putin is very well aware of how to get $$$$$ and it won't be from Israel. Once again after consolidation of power WE taxpayer will be funding Putin's actions.
To: priceofreedom
Looks like Putin understands that a secular democracy cannot succeed without first eliminating those who would use it to install a theocracy -- the terrorists.
First things first.
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posted on
09/15/2004 10:49:26 AM PDT
by
Eastbound
( "Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy be")
To: Just mythoughts
WHO will be left with the TAB???? Hopefully... Yasser Arafat, HAMAS, Hezb'allah, and Chechen terrorists. They are the ones who stand to lose the most from a Russo-Israeli partnership. Israel gains political credibility when it has Russia's backing and Russia will gain Israeli technique, allowing it to field a force capable of taking on the Chechens.
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posted on
09/15/2004 10:51:16 AM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: nonliberal
Personally, I'm happy to see Putin thumb his nose at Powell.
What's that old Arab expression? "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" -- isn't that it? Powell should shut up. We need the Ruskies as our friends. They don't have the MSM and the ACLU to worry about.
To: priceofreedom
USA is too "tippy toe" to side up with anymore
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posted on
09/15/2004 10:58:03 AM PDT
by
sure_fine
(*not one to over kill the thought process*)
To: priceofreedom
Here ya go.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:00:09 AM PDT
by
ASA Vet
(Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
To: BureaucratusMaximus
DITTO!
(btw, look for Hillary-Powell in '08)
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:02:03 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
To: Robert_Paulson2
"every citizen can be his own soldier and soveriegn." Great concept! Wonder if it will ever catch on here? ;->
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:03:02 AM PDT
by
Eastbound
( "Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy be")
To: priceofreedom
The Bear is awake.
My only fear is that with the massive centralization of power that Putin has done, is that someone will use it to turn Russia back into a dictatorship.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:04:27 AM PDT
by
redgolum
To: xm177e2
Oh the complexity of the players.
1. Israel could take out Arafat in a heart beat.
2. Israel could make Lebanon and Syria a pile of sand if they chose to.
3. Russian interests have only been the same as US in WWII to destroy Hitler. However, one cannot claim that what replaced Hitler was better or more civilized.
So the big question is why? Why would Putin reach out to Israel when they have operated so stealth fully among the Muslim nations all of these years.
Get Gertz's new book and find out who has been arming the Muslim world.
Putin has not demonstrated that he is about ending terrorism, rather seems to have allowed and used terrorism to regain and reclaim centralized power.
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:09:58 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(If you're listening to a rock star…on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are, A Cooper)
To: daumal; All
Islamic menace first, democratic "reforms" later. We should be doing the same Any country that realizes that terrorism needs to be defeated now and contributes resources to the task should be embraced as allies. We know how Israel deals with terror on a daily basis. We will all soon learn Russia's resolve. We are at war with the forces of evil that want us dead. All of us need be very aware of that fact. Everything else is secondary.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:14:19 AM PDT
by
afnamvet
(USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
To: priceofreedom
Rest assured when the Russians grab any of those terrorists they would be more than happy to go the American Club Med in Cuba rather than what faces them there ,The Russians know full well how to deal with this Trash.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:20:30 AM PDT
by
Fast1
To: Tolik
Russia is in a hard spot to be sure.
Lacking infostructure and logistics....their Archaic state owned oil/gas pipeline transmission systems.....which is the coin keeping the sickly bear alive...... is vulnerable,vulnerable to terrorism.
So ya.....managing Jihadi types and other brooding ethnics.
Israel will be of help to Russia in managing the crazies.
Russian gangsters and their other buddies in ex Soviet Stans will probably help keep the terror down,
cuz the extorski from the oil/gas is just to good.
To: xm177e2
The story says nothing about Russia teaching Israel about how to get stuck in a boondoggle occupation and then back out after public outcry--the Israelis learned about that in Lebanon. Yes, fortunately the deal does not include the Israelis being trained in the Russian expertise of getting themselves into bloody quagmires.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:23:13 AM PDT
by
montag813
(PLEASE PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS IN THEIR TIME OF NEED)
To: redgolum
You're absolutely right. I'm all for Russia teaming up with Israel, but we need to be careful what we wish for. I think some on this thread have not heard about Putin's proposal that ONLY PUTIN SHOULD APPOINT LOCAL OFFICIALS. Putin wants to do away with local elections!
This terrifies me.
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posted on
09/15/2004 11:29:33 AM PDT
by
keats5
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