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oh.. NOW the Times starts to get into it.
1 posted on 09/14/2004 7:57:30 PM PDT by Pikamax
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So here is their defense.

The documents are fake but we believe them anyway because a week after they were determined to be fake, a little old lady, who we haven't talked to [before or after the documents were determined to be fake], came out and verified the content (while saying that they were absolutely fake).

Somehow, I don't think that is going to fly.

36 posted on 09/14/2004 8:19:06 PM PDT by Pete
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Fake but Accurate?

Who needs Letterman and Leno?


38 posted on 09/14/2004 8:20:39 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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The NYT channels The Onion.


40 posted on 09/14/2004 8:21:25 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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One more thing. Keep in mind that this lady's account goes against all the authentic memos we do have from Killian where he praises Bush. It also goes against the wife and son and other witnesses who say Killian thought highly of Bush.

The secretary is a forgery. Somebody check her font.

41 posted on 09/14/2004 8:22:55 PM PDT by Pete
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Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate

Bing bing bing.

DNC talking points alert.

43 posted on 09/14/2004 8:24:42 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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Believable Lies.

I still say she was SUPPOSED to be able to come forward and say she typed them.

Then came THE INVASION OF THE PAJAMA PEOPLE!!!!!

Then the DNC was reduced using her to try and repush the content of the story.

She is a fraud. If she had a valid statement she would have said it in any number of previous elections.

The times is just trying to provide cover and get the DNC talking points back on track.

sorry MSM no sale.


44 posted on 09/14/2004 8:25:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate, Typist Says

I wonder if that "fake but accurate" argument will hold up when the State Troopers run down Rodney, my second cousin twice removed, driving on that "fake but accurate" license he cooked up on Photoshop in the back room with his trusty Dell?

46 posted on 09/14/2004 8:25:45 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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Asked about her politics, she said she had never voted for Mr. Bush.

Why don't those *%&$ers at the NYT tell the whole story on this. She called Bush "unfit for command" and "selected, not elected." She has the MoveOn.org talking points down.
I think the readers might want to have that information when they consider whether or not this "sweet old lady" is telling the truth on Killian's personal feelings.
47 posted on 09/14/2004 8:26:31 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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Mr. Burkett declined to return telephone calls to his home near Abilene, Tex. His lawyer, David Van Os, on Tuesday repeatedly refused to say in a telephone interview whether the officer had played a part in supplying the disputed documents to CBS. Mr. Van Os said "the real story is and should be, where was George Bush?" and that Mr. Burkett "is not the proper object of attention."

Mr. Van Os called Mr. Burkett "a man of impeccable honesty who would not permit himself to be a party to anything fake, fraudulent or phony."

He sued three officials personally in the TX Army Guard, saying that when he came home sick from Panama, they refused to tell the Military Hospital facility that he was a member of the Guard on Active Duty, and thus couldn't get treatment until it was too late and he was severly damaged. Both the trial court and the appelate court ruled that this issue related to official duties and regulations - was a military justice matter, not to be heard in the Texas court system. He's also had two nervous breakdowns. He may believe what he thinks he remembers, but it could "Rather" be that he thinks what he wishes he could remember, for the revenge motive.

48 posted on 09/14/2004 8:26:54 PM PDT by DmBarch
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How interestin that the NY Times doesn't mention what was in the original Dallas News article, namely that the woman is a Bush-hater.

"Mrs. Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events, said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215941/posts

So why didn't Rather do a story, that Killian's secretary, who hates Bush claims Killian wrote memos containing derogatory info, but she has no proof? This would have been the correct assertion.

And now, this woman who hates Bush states that the memos are fraudulent, but since she hates Bush, she is trying to help out the Bush bashers, but even with all that, she has to admit the memos are fake.


50 posted on 09/14/2004 8:28:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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"We did discuss Bush's conduct and it was a problem Killian was concerned about," Mrs. Knox said.

Has anyone here ever worked for a company where his/her supervisor routinely discussed his/her job performance with the secretaries? If so, are you still working for that company?

58 posted on 09/14/2004 8:33:46 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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"Come along Mrs. Knox- get back in bed you bad girl. The nurse will be in in a minute with your medicine."


59 posted on 09/14/2004 8:34:07 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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Why is that kind, old people are always used as Dem shills?

This is a replay of the kind old couple who happened to have a radio that picked up cell phones and happened to have a tape recorder when they picked up Newt's conversation.

This kind, old lady is a DNC plant.

The original plan has come unraveled

. I would like to see the production date on the DNC ad using the CBS memos. Perhaps the RNC already knows that and that is why they haven't backed away from today's "linking".

61 posted on 09/14/2004 8:35:26 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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They need to grill her on her party affiliations and donations just as aggressively as they have grilled the anti-Kerry people like swiftvets!


63 posted on 09/14/2004 8:35:59 PM PDT by nomad
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Nice try. They are trying to authenticate the content of the documents even though the documents themselves are not authentic. Could this be any more transparent?


67 posted on 09/14/2004 8:37:48 PM PDT by Freemyland
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Asked about her politics, she said she had never voted for Mr. Bush.

Now there's a press shocker!

Can't blame the lady...here's her one chance to play Ann Richards for a day.
68 posted on 09/14/2004 8:38:15 PM PDT by VOA
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An item here had the lin to Kerry's FBI files. Maybe someone could fwd them to CBS with a note that they really need a lot of sugar coating. CBS can handle that for sure. Funny they've never mentioned his files or his traitorship.


70 posted on 09/14/2004 8:38:53 PM PDT by Waco
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Interesting how this 86 year old woman has such "clear" memory of events and conversations that happened over 30 years ago regarding Pres. Bush. Wonder if she remembers as much about all the other reservists who served during that time.

Let's face it, Danny boy got caught with his pants down and it's a Rather unpleasant picture they are all trying to cover up.

72 posted on 09/14/2004 8:40:23 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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Based on her age and anti-Bush statements (typically suppressed by the Times), the old lady is no doubt an FDR democrat who believes all republicans wear top hats and eat poor coal miners for breakfast.

She's of the era where she can't quite tell blatant lies to give Rather some back-up. But she's also probably giving vent to her 30+ year old dislike of Lt. Bush and his fancy Republican Congressman father.
76 posted on 09/14/2004 8:40:54 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (I'm just another pajama journalist.)
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If they were accurate there would have been no need to forge the fakes! DUH! Do they really think people are this dumb? Oh, I forgot, she's a die-on-the-vine Kerry supporter ROFLMAO


79 posted on 09/14/2004 8:43:52 PM PDT by Steven W.
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