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Whole Story - A fraud, not a mistake
United Press International ^ | September 14, 2004 | Peter Roff

Posted on 09/14/2004 7:44:41 PM PDT by PDR

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-- This is the full version of the story that was posted earlier in the day from the wash. times web site... it makes more sense when you can read the whole think.
1 posted on 09/14/2004 7:44:42 PM PDT by PDR
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Though it is not a certainty, the documents produced by CBS News to support the assertions of former Texas House Speaker and Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes that George W. Bush was the beneficiary of special treatment throughout his service in the Texas Air National Guard are likely fraudulent.

what is certain is that you can not prove the documents to be real or authentic. because the documents cBS has are photocopies and NOT the originals

2 posted on 09/14/2004 7:47:27 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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true enough -- but until cbs makes the original documents they were given public it is a point that can be debated.


3 posted on 09/14/2004 7:50:14 PM PDT by PDR
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To: FesterUSMC

Take the CBS copy and hold it up to the light with a MS Word (default settings) copy. If the format fits, you must convict.


4 posted on 09/14/2004 7:50:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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That's it. A major network cannot be that gullible, therefore they were doing it deliberately and were knowingly complicit in the perpetration of a fraud.

When is the president of CBS resigning, right after he fired Rather?


5 posted on 09/14/2004 7:51:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL i have done this, it fits! and im convicting...


6 posted on 09/14/2004 7:52:23 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: PDR
Ahhh, getting nostalgic right now . . .

The classic 'modified, limited hangout'.
7 posted on 09/14/2004 7:53:19 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: FesterUSMC; PDR

> what is certain is that you can not prove the documents
> to be real or authentic. because the documents cBS has
> are photocopies and NOT the originals

But if CBS was handed physical paper memos, they may
well be the ORIGINAL forgeries, complete with nth-gen
copy artifacts, noise, blur and optical distortions.

On the bright side, as long as CBS stonewalls, they
are sidelined from any serious play for the opposing
team.


8 posted on 09/14/2004 7:54:13 PM PDT by Boundless
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CBS DOES NOT HAVE THE ORIGIONALS!! AND NEVER HAD THE ORIGINALS!
9 posted on 09/14/2004 7:54:24 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: PDR

Good article.


10 posted on 09/14/2004 7:55:20 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: FesterUSMC

the only way you can believe that cBS has the origional memos is to believe that Killian wrote in XEROX !


11 posted on 09/14/2004 7:56:37 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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"CBS DOES NOT HAVE THE ORIGINALS!! AND NEVER HAD THE ORIGINALS!"

Bingo.


12 posted on 09/14/2004 7:57:37 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: PDR
Wow! This summarizes so many of the reasons why this story is so big.

Influencing the outcome of an election by KNOWINGLY using fraudulent documents on a national television network program that is purporting to offer news, rather than opinion, does not serve the public interest--and isn't that why there is an FCC?

13 posted on 09/14/2004 7:57:39 PM PDT by Zellenn
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An error such as the one Woodward and his former colleague Carl Bernstein made could even now be tolerated; a deliberate act of deception -- such as the one the memos now appear strongly to be -- cannot.

If this had been a forgery that attacked Kerry, Woodward would have certainly weighed by now. Seems doubtful that we'll hear from him on RatherGate at all.

14 posted on 09/14/2004 7:57:54 PM PDT by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when they are in the process of making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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Bump for later reading.


15 posted on 09/14/2004 7:58:40 PM PDT by Polybius
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If they are a deliberate attempt to deceive, to sway even a small portion of the electorate in what is expected to be the closest presidential election in a century, then CBS and the media are being used for nefarious purposes.

No...I think that CBS and the media are trying to use their viewing public for nefarious purposes...specifically an attempt at electing liberals. This happens every election, only this time it seems to be blowing up in their pompous faces.

16 posted on 09/14/2004 8:02:58 PM PDT by Dr.Syn
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I think Rather's daughter may have something to do with the originals
17 posted on 09/14/2004 8:06:22 PM PDT by teancumspirit (Like Teancum, (the warrior of old ) I am mad at the enemy, they are evil, they must be stopped.)
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If they are a deliberate attempt to deceive, to sway even a small portion of the electorate in what is expected to be the closest presidential election in a century ...

The closest presidential election in a century?! How quickly they forget!

18 posted on 09/14/2004 8:06:40 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: Dr.Syn

This is certainly a little more serious than prematurely calling a very close election...... This is direct intervention.


19 posted on 09/14/2004 8:07:13 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: PDR
It looks like CBS and the Boston Globe are all alone among the MSM on this issue. Meanwhile, out here in the blogosphere, we watch, wait and listen as the MSM relentlessly pursue Dan Rather and destroy his reputation, and deservedly so.

It appears to me that Rather cannot whether this storm. Affiliates and advertisers are soon going to be getting in on the act, if they are not already. Dan Rather going out as a discredited Dimwit hack whose lack of judgment single-handedly gave omniscient power to the Republicans for a generation or more is a fairy tale ending to this episode, to be sure. But we can dream, can't we?

20 posted on 09/14/2004 8:08:49 PM PDT by massadvj
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