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1 posted on 09/14/2004 2:18:25 PM PDT by ambrose
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said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.”

Awwww....too bad. She just blew any objective perspective she might have brought to the table with that last statement.

"So...Ms. Knox, did you...or did you not type these memos?

"No, I did not...but I think the sentime-"

"Ms. Knox, thank you - peddle your unsubstantiated opinions elsewhere...Your witness!"

199 posted on 09/14/2004 3:16:00 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (Hate is a DNC Family Value)
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LOL! That old bat is nuts. Weird...


205 posted on 09/14/2004 3:19:17 PM PDT by Trippin
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Mrs. Knox...said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.”

In other words, she is a rabidly partisan Democrat, and even she says the memos are "not real."

211 posted on 09/14/2004 3:23:57 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The Democratic machine in this country is putrid." Teresa Heinz, 1975)
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Its odd that there's no picture of Ms. Knox at the article or the DMN home page.

I'll leave it at that. It's odd.


217 posted on 09/14/2004 3:26:35 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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Yeah! I am glad they found the secretary for the Lt!

What a gem of a woman at 86. Those were the years when we "secretaries" really were the ones who ran the office and had excellent recall to this date.

You Go Girl!


221 posted on 09/14/2004 3:28:06 PM PDT by not2worry (The future of Our Country is in Our Hands on November 4, 2004!)
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You know....I worked as a secretary at about the same time as Marion Carr Knox, albeit not for the Guard or a governmental agency, but if somebody asked me today how my boss felt about this or that back then...I don't think I could give an honest answer. It's hard to believe that she would remember precisely how her boss felt about something. I'm sure he had lots of other things to consume his time with other than Lt. George W. Bush.


226 posted on 09/14/2004 3:29:25 PM PDT by TejasRose
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So the lady has an axe to grind. No supporter of the President.


236 posted on 09/14/2004 3:36:20 PM PDT by hershey
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Since she's a Kerry supporter, her statements must be disregarded.


238 posted on 09/14/2004 3:37:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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An 86 year old Bush hating nut today stated....


243 posted on 09/14/2004 3:43:03 PM PDT by woofie (This document was generated in 2004 by a computer)
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I don't know if this will help with the Carr Knox secretary story, but I found a service manual for sale for one on a web site. It should indicate if there was in fact any superscript keys on 1968 Olympias.

The link is:

http://users.lewiston.com/ejorgens/office/servicemanuals/late_service_manuals.htm

It looks like it'll cost someone $24.00 to get the manual to verify the secretary.

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If that lead doen't check out then there is a guy named Richard Holt who has a list of Typewriter repair people all over the US (and the globe for that matter). Some of them specifically list Olympia typewriters. You may be able to get a hold of someone who actually knows what a 1972 Olympia typewriter is capable of.

The link there is:
http://xavier.xu.edu:8000/~polt/tw-repair.html


245 posted on 09/14/2004 3:44:56 PM PDT by johnd01
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The editorial seems to sum things up nicely:
" In the world of investigative journalism, they don't come any bigger than 60 Minutes. That's why the lightning-quick takedown of the venerable CBS News program's tale of President Bush's alleged sweetheart Vietnam-era treatment in the Texas Air National Guard was so shocking.

We don't know for certain if CBS and correspondent Dan Rather were really snookered by forged documents. CBS is sticking by its story that the papers on which it based its damning report were authentic. But that report was shredded by the school of piranhas in the blogosphere – and Old Media reporters who followed quickly in the Web bloggers' wake.

The attack started immediately after 60 Minutes II aired the report Wednesday. Hours later, posters at the Free Republic Web site noticed something odd about the documents. The lawyer-run Powerlineblog.com site got interested, and then graphic designer Charles Johnson at littlegreenfootballs.com showed on his site how the documents were likely designed using Microsoft Word and its Times Roman font – which did not exist when Mr. Bush was in the Guard.

Sensing blood in the water, the professional sharks at ABC News, Newsweek, The Dallas Morning News and others took big bites out of the report's credibility in other areas. Result: The story is now about CBS and what looks like its sloppy reporting, not Mr. Bush and what he did during the Vietnam era.

Which is not entirely fair, really, because Mr. Bush has not been entirely forthcoming about his Guard record (nor, for that matter, has Democrat John Kerry released all the documents related to his service in Vietnam). CBS' bungling of this story with only seven weeks to go in the presidential race probably means that any further reporting on Mr. Bush and the Guard, however well sourced and documented, will be received by many Americans as mere political mudslinging.

We think New York Times columnist William Safire may be on to something by telling his old friend Dan Rather to quit stonewalling and instead to call for an independent investigation of CBS' report. The days are long past when a major media organization can haughtily appeal to the authority of its brand name to dismiss criticism it finds impertinent. "

CBS' Black Eyes: Bloggers and hubris beat up big media

249 posted on 09/14/2004 3:50:10 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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Mrs. Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events

My 86-year-old mother-in-law in the nursing home also speaks with precise recollection about dates, people and events, but she doesn't recognize her own grandchildren when they come to visit her.

251 posted on 09/14/2004 3:53:08 PM PDT by Alouette (Dan Rather lied. CBS died.)
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Related thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216011/posts


256 posted on 09/14/2004 3:55:43 PM PDT by Checkers
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This old gal sounds like Dan, wishing to hell they were real.


258 posted on 09/14/2004 3:59:01 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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Tag line:

"CBS News: Based on Actual Events"
266 posted on 09/14/2004 4:10:13 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (I'm just another pajama journalist.)
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She also said the memos may have been constructed from memory by someone who had seen Lt. Col. Killian’s private file but were not transcriptions because the language and terminology did not match what he would have used. For instance, she said, the use of the words “billets” and a reference to the “administrative officer” of Mr. Bush’s squadron reflect Army terminology rather than the Air National Guard. Some news reports attribute the CBS reports to a former Army National Guard officer who has a longstanding dispute with the Guard and has previously maintained that the president’s record was sanitized. Mrs. Knox also cited stylistic differences in the form of the notes, such as the signature on the right side of the document, rather than the left, where she would have put it.

Dear Dan,

The fat (old) lady just sang.

273 posted on 09/14/2004 4:15:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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“I remember very vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it,” she said

This sounds fishy to me. When Pres. Bush was "there" he was just another pilot. There would have been no "yak-yak" going on about him in particular. No more than about any other hot shot pilot at the time.

278 posted on 09/14/2004 4:25:13 PM PDT by Flint
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288 posted on 09/14/2004 4:38:35 PM PDT by kanawa
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What does 'memogate' amount to in the big picture. In President Bush fighting terrorism it amounts to not dotting an "i". In terms of main-stream-media credibility it's a kick to the groin. 
298 posted on 09/14/2004 5:37:12 PM PDT by Zon
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“selected, not elected.”

She must've voted in Palm Beach.


302 posted on 09/14/2004 5:56:28 PM PDT by spitlana
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