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Whining Dems on AWB Sunset(McDermott, Blumenauer, Feinswine, Swimmer, Jim Moron, Lenin, Jackson-Lee)
Thomas ^ | 9-13-04 | Congresscritters

Posted on 09/14/2004 9:57:18 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: coloradan

Yeah, there was a thread back in march when Kerry said that.

That quote was brought up then too.........

Scary ain't it.......


61 posted on 09/14/2004 12:28:49 PM PDT by OXENinFLA (W-"We stand for the Second Amendment which gives every American the individual right to bear arms.")
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To: Dan from Michigan

"According to statistics reported by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, from 1990 to 1994, assault weapons named in the ban constituted 4.82 percent of guns traced in criminal investigations. However, since the ban's enactment, these assault weapons have made up only 1.61 percent of the crime-related guns traced."

He just proved that they never were/are ``the weapons of choice for criminals.'' himself. Seems that HCI is doing our work for us. I am so glad I am out of MI, I hated Levin when I was too young to vote for these exact reasons.


62 posted on 09/14/2004 12:29:13 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Badray
Are you able to make it to DC for the SAF conference?

Sorry, can't make it this year. Too much going on. Too bad too, since a lot of people (outside MA and CA) will be in a good mood with the sunset now in place.

63 posted on 09/14/2004 12:40:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: looscnnn
What's really sad is that Lenin has been in office since the year I was born.

At least Lenin is about 70.

64 posted on 09/14/2004 12:42:39 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: Joe Brower
The mags are 40-rounders, one mounted in the weapon, with two more inverted and duct-taped on either side of the first one.

Home Depot sells packages of velcro tape, about an inch wide and 4" long. You can back-to-back a whold herd of 30 rd Mini-14 mags with that stuff - make em all the same... put a strip of fuzzy on the bottom of the side, then a strip of hook above it, then a strip of fuzzy, then a strip of hook. Do both sides. If they're all the same, you slap them together one up, one down, one up... I carry them in my shooting bag in groups of six together. Split em into twos on the range or woods.

I'm sure something similar would work for the AR... you'd have to make sure to allow enough neck on the mag to allow it to slide into the mag well.

65 posted on 09/14/2004 12:50:50 PM PDT by glock rocks (There's nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

It is scary to know how many enemies of freedom we have in our own federal government.


66 posted on 09/14/2004 1:03:00 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: glock rocks
GR, sounds to me like you're having too much fun!

I typically have three mags on my AR-15 carbine: One in the well, one in the ready mag, and then one on a buttstock pouch. That's usually enough to take care of all those maurauding water bottles out there!

My experience with Velcro is that it's great stuff, but here in Florida with all the vegatation and mud, it gets gummed up real fast. Works well in the desert, though, from my experience.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

67 posted on 09/14/2004 1:08:00 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Can we get McDermott to campaign for Kerry? His stop in Bagdad did wonders for the dems in 2002 :)


68 posted on 09/14/2004 1:28:04 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: correctthought

McDermott is 'Baghdad James McDermott' Saddam's friend.

In Oregon, they know Blumenaeur as Earl Blue Manure.

Moran is known as Congressman Moron, the most corrupt congress critter in the house.

Teddy 'The Swimmer' Kennedy is also known as Lard Butt.

Sheila Jackson-Lee is also known as Sheila Jack-off Lee.

Just some of their nicknames.


69 posted on 09/14/2004 1:53:15 PM PDT by punster
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To: glock rocks

Sounds like an interesting way to have a few rounds handy. Now that the ban is over maybe we can get some quality 30 and 40 round Mini-14 magazines instead of the cheap crap like I wasted my money on.


70 posted on 09/14/2004 2:05:58 PM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: Joe Brower
Works well in the desert, though, from my experience.

... and that's where we find most of those renegade water bottles out here in Utah.

71 posted on 09/14/2004 2:11:28 PM PDT by glock rocks (There's nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

To believe these folks, the question is:

"How the f**k did we survive long enough to pass the Assault Weapons Ban in 1994?"


72 posted on 09/14/2004 2:12:33 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

That's what I was thinking. It would be a good time to celebrate. Clear your schedule for CPAC in February then.


73 posted on 09/14/2004 4:27:34 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: IGOTMINE

And that is how it SHOULD be!


74 posted on 09/14/2004 4:34:55 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Semi automatic weapons with a high magazine capacity are militarily useful. (Such as the M1 Carbine, SKS) As an infantry squad leader in Vietnam, I regularly admonished my grunts to hold off on full auto fire in certain circumstances to control ammo expenditure and maintain long-term fire superiority until we could get resupply. I think it is precisely this military utility that makes unconstitutional, tyrannical, authoritarian types so nervous as they contemplate these weapons in civilian hands.

What the hell does these FOOLS think that the citizen militia mentioned in the second amendment are supposed to use? Spit Balls?!!!

Gun grabbers are increasingly trying to separate the right to keep and bear arms from its constitutional underpinnings. To everyone but liberals and gun grabbers the word militia implies a body organized for military use. The Supreme Court Miller decision of 1939 held that the militia was 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."

To begin with, only the national government was represented at the trial. With nobody arguing to the contrary, the court followed standard court procedure and assumed that the law was constitutional until proven otherwise. If both sides were present, the outcome may have been much different.

However, since only one party showed up, the case will stand in the court records as is. As to the militia, Mr. Justice McReynolds related the beliefs of the Founding Fathers when commenting historically about the Second Amendment. He stated that, ". . .The common view was that adequate defense of country and laws could be secured through the militia- civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion.

"The significance attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.

It is clear that the firearms that are most suited for modern-day militia use are those semi automatic military pattern weapons that the yellow press calls "assault weapons". Since nations such as the Swiss trust their citizenry with true selective fire assault rifles, it seems to me that this country ought to be at least able to trust its law-abiding citizenry with the semi automatic version.

Self-defense is a vital corollary benefit of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. But its primary constitutional reason for being is for service in the well-regulated militia which is necessary to the security of a free state. WE must be prepared to maintain that security against even our own forces that are responding to the orders of a tyrannical government, and the only viable way to counter a standing army's qualitative advantage is with a huge quantitative one. Don't let the gun grabbers and their politician allies separate us from the constitutional reason for the right to keep and bear arms. Miltary pattern weapons are precisly the weapons that should be MOST constitutionally protected. Even defenders of the right often neglect the constitutional aspect of it, and concentrate on their near non-existent use in crime.

Gun grabbers love to haul out their straw man argument of tanks, howitzers, bazookas, flame throwers, satchel charges, whenever we defenders of the constitution reference the type of modern day INDIVIDUAL military small arm protected by Amendment #2. The modern day individual firearm for a soldier usually a selective fire assault rifle and/ore a semi-auto handgun.

Now let's address the gun grabber straw man. We need to make those type of CREW SERVED weapons available at some level to the well regulated (meaning well trained, organized and disciplined) militia that is formed as a military unit to meet whatever threat that it is appropriate for them to use such weapons as a unit. These weapons would be maintained and stored for use by such units as a formed body.


75 posted on 09/14/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: glock rocks
Utah, eh? Awesome state. I will visit it again someday, hopefully sooner than later!

And yep -- those darn Islamakazi water bottles are everywhere!

76 posted on 09/14/2004 7:14:24 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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