Posted on 09/14/2004 9:42:00 AM PDT by wildbill
Quick. Call Dan Rather and warn him!
Nah, they make good bonfires.
Love it 'Tonk"
All people regularly make ethical and moral decisions. The decision to broadcast any given piece on the news, a talk magazine, etc is directly hitting the bottom line and therefor as much a business decision as an idealogical one. It may be a poor business decision and a great idealogical one at the same time.
But I note you didn't deal with the question. LOL
"All people regularly make ethical and moral decisions. The decision to broadcast any given piece on the news, a talk magazine, etc is directly hitting the bottom line and therefor as much a business decision as an idealogical one. It may be a poor business decision and a great idealogical one at the same time.
But I note you didn't deal with the question. LOL"
The "free trade" aspect of your question depends upon WHOM it is trading. Moral people can and do make money under established rules or guidelines, and those who do not will have to unload their camel.
So it's moral to fire US employees servicing the US market and hire slaves in their place to make a buck.. Is this your argument. Cause the market being served didn't change.
In the case of say, Japanese companies outsourcing, they outsource to the US to build their product in and for the US market and pay employees in that market. US businessmen are on the contrary, outsourcing to other countries to service the same market they're scuttling with their actions. If it's not bad enough they're hiring slaves in place of US workers, they're doing it in wartime.. There goes that Ethics meter deep into the minuses again. Have to get that thing fixed so nobody pays attention to it right...
Ethics and business don't mix.. that's what the free traders have been telling us over and again. Yet here we are and all of a sudden decrying ethics as it relates to the business of journalism because it harms them. Goodness me. The hypocrisy.. tsk tsk.
"Ethics and business don't mix.. that's what the free traders have been telling us over and again. Yet here we are and all of a sudden decrying ethics as it relates to the business of journalism because it harms them. Goodness me. The hypocrisy.. tsk tsk."
I totally disagree. Lack of ethics will always come back and bite big time.
I'm not in a labor union - nor are the 20,000 it workers who will be outsourced by EDS alone in the next 22 months.
Unions are harped on but they are a minor part of the equation. I can tell you what my company gets paid for my seat vs what I get paid. And they're makin a killing off me. So don't tell me how bad they got it. I know better.
This ain't about productivity, regulation, etc. It's pure and simple about the difference between paying for labor and having big profits or not paying for labor and having astronomical profits for short term gains. In the meantime, the conga line of best friends marching through the ranks of Corporate leadership to rake Hundreds of millions of dollars off the top of the pot for themselves before leaving in disgrace is ongoing.
Execs and stockholders have no concern for the american worker and continually want more and more of the pot - more output from the worker and to pay less and less for the work. Eventually, at that rate, we work for free and they take all the earnings. That can't happen here; but, with slaves... Esp in a huge communist country where it's illegal to revolt..
Same old talking points. More excuses?
Related thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216011/posts
Bumping for the shock of seeing a free trader say ethics belongs in business. May need smelling salts in a minute.
Sympathys dude. But I need to point out that you work for EDS. Which is not known for corporate ethics (or more correctly is known for them, in a bad way).
Further EDS made a tidy income from outsourcing IT departments for govt agencys and fortune 500s. Can't have it both ways.
ISO type processes reduce IT workers to cogs in horrendously inefficent machines. I hate to work that way and it makes the job easy to move. BTW my last full time job did over half of its buisness with former EDS clients. They were the easy ones to sell as they had very low expectations.
Media ethics: an oxymoron.
I keep hearing these things about my company from past employees. And it's disheartning; but, I'm a practical sort and there is no pedastal upon which they sit. I had
pretty sharp but well intended words for our negotiator when he was here. But until the mindset changes amongst the packs of friends at the top who swoop in to harvest cash while screwing everyone else and then bailing on golden parachutes... Corporations have become vending machines for rich friends who stop in once, withdraw large sums and go - to be replaced by someone that person knows and so on. It's a fools game.
There are a lot of these guys getting filthy rich and leaving for doing little of nothing while the employees break their backs and are constantly told to do more for and with less.. so the top end can pad out with another few million. Nobody really cares about the companies anymore, the price for failure is better than what they'd get for succeeding as an average worker. But then, I ain't sayin anything everyone here doesn't already know. And nobody's really doing squat about it.
CBS and Rather, are protecting a criminal. Aiding an abetting a criminal is a crime in itself. Arrest them.
Ditto
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