Posted on 09/12/2004 6:04:34 AM PDT by Archangelsk
This is not really a change in subject -
There is now a small window of opportunity to destroy what the Moslem world has been for all these centuries. Since "modernity", for lack of a better term, has destroyed us - though the majority of Americans (willfully dumb as rocks) will not see this until events force awareness - we have a generation or so to infect the Moslem world with the same cancer. This project is well underway. Might work, too.
Hope we can disagree without being disagreeable.
If you have not read the quote about "huddled masses" lately maybe you should try a book. If you are into reading you might try a conservative like Octavio Paz. Then you will understand admiration instead of anger.
too bad guys like you don't actually read the Rules on Free Repbulic i.e NO personal attacks. Too bad you can't disagree without being disagreeable.
Its simple you have taken some abstract political rhetoric and created a religous belief out of it. If they were so hard working why is their home country such a dump, if they were so valuable why is their country so mismanaged? I simply doubt this Paz is an American conservative because if he was or is this "huddled masses" nonsense comes straight out of liberal Politics 101 of Victimization. Scenario two, you are some ethnic hustler simply gaming the system.
Here is something about this 1990 Nobel prize winner: Disgusted with Stalinism, Paz had rejected the Left by the time the Cold War began [that would be 1950 for you my history callenged Free Republic reader]. Language became Paz's central concern. "I think that for intellectuals, politics has replaced ideology and to some extent religion,"
Like David Horowitz, PAZ writes with passion and style that gets through to a huge market of Latin people who want freedom. He wrote about work and democracy long before you found your hands on computer.
I for one can tell the difference between a man from Mexico and one from Chile, it is not about their Latin sounding name.
As to being a race hustler - those are the chicken ___, comments of someone in the RAT party not worthy of someone who might have worn a uniform and earned the right (as Zell said in his speech) to make a comment about Huddled Masses!! Wait I'm the one who wore the uniform.
Actually, there are a lot of people who think we could use immigration but from Europe only.
Europe doesn't have people to send, they need to stay home and fix up their own countries and it was massive immigration from Europe that brought us socialist ideas and unions. The problem with massive immigration, it's purpose is to keep wages very low -- and the only way wages rise so that people can have that better life they were seeking is for employers to have to compete for labor or by unions. In the late 1800s after massive immigration, unions took a big hold and union protests were very violent.
If Mexicans are so conservative, they need to work on bringing about conservativism in Mexico --- leaving by the millions isn't doing a thing for those left behind --- at some point someone needs to stay and bring about positive change back home -- that kind of change would benefit far more people -- right now Mexico looks like a sinking ship that people are only trying to flee --- but Mexico with it's vast natural resourses shouldn't look the way it does. There is real no reason that prosperity ends when you reach the Rio Grande.
Octavio Paz was pointing out to them what a mistake socialism and communism are AND many of the Mexicans that have moved to America have become very conservative after they see what a benefit the values of a conservative do for their lifestyle.
I think that the worst piece of their history is that Fox has spent more time on security reform - with modest results, as witnessed in the March of the People in White (300,000 ) against kidnappings and corruption. He looked like he might bring some business - conservative values to their body politic.
It's interesting because they just have a very different culture and values -- depending on the social class of course. The most conservative, traditional kind of Mexican we usually see here -- coming here illegally can tell you about growing up on an ejido. That was their traditional lifestyle back home --- communally owned property but with some private ownership of crops and animals. The idea of privately owned land is pretty new to most and I think that's one of the problems and why immigration is so high. When they privatized some of the ejidos, the new owners saw a chance to see some money and sold them. Now they don't have their ejido and they don't have a job and had to come here.
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