Posted on 09/12/2004 6:04:34 AM PDT by Archangelsk
Ping.
The liberals have done their damnedest to keep the immigrants in ESL classes and therefore down in the barrio, oh and voting Democrat, too.
A Mexican is more likely to say, 'They are such a cold people. They don’t know their neighbors. They don’t know their children. They have no fiestas. Rules and being on time are more important to them than other people. They have no religion.'And mine!"He knows the government left him alone in Mexico, which is his definition of freedom. And mine."
And did you say all you nice people were planning to vote Republican?
Hold it while I run get the welcome mat!
OK, fred makes a case against mexican immigrants. But should we shut mexicans out and let chinese in. Every complaint in this article is not true of chinese and indian immigrants. Further, a lot of people don't even want the H1-Bs coming here who share nothing with the mexican dregs.
Fred has written favorable on the east asian immigrants, so he is not inconsistent.
But a lot of people on the immigrant issue are not consistent. Some say keep the mexicans out as they are too low class and keep the h1b's out because they are too smart. Others say let the mexicans in because they vote democrat, and keep the asians and europeans out because they vote republican.
Right on target. We ignore the implications to our peril.
They don't even have anything like a Republican Party aor other Conservative party back home, although they have a lot of political parties, all are leftist and socialist or communist.
I don't see the inconsistency in believing we don't need massive immigration at any level. Importing cheap labor to keep wages low hurts college graduates if cheap Asian programmers are brought in, importing cheap labor to keep wages extremely low hurts those attempting to become middle class by working their way up.
The above people are who came to America in 1620 and 1776, they are the people called "Your huddled masses." Thank God we have set up a country to help LOSERS become WINNERS.
Doctors and airline pilots never fit the description of communists unless they live in a communist state. To the best of my knowledge, Mexico is still a democratic and capitalist society.
He's making a mistake here. The "dregs" make up the majority of the Mexican population. He's seeing the typical Mexican as well-off or comfortable, when 51% of the population lives in poverty and another 20% lives in extreme poverty, according to the World Bank. You can't define a people based on 30% of its population.
They have democratic elections but with an over 70% unionization rate -- compared with ours of about 10%, and much government control, a very centralized government, they are not anything close to American conservatives.
I agree that's the mistake he's making too. The way Mexican culture and society is set up, no one works their way into any job or status --- it's very classist --- if you are born into the small upper class, your money and connections buy you a high paying job. What he's calling the dregs are those who were born poor -- the majority and are denied all opportunity and education -- in Mexico your birth determines your destiny. You can see that even here -- those from the upper class are often dumb-as-doorknobs but believe they are entitled to good jobs while those from the dregs are much more clever and quick -- but less educated because that's they way it works in Mexico.
Meanwhile, Mexico-based Mexicans try to get their kids into schools where they will learn English, knowing that it will help them get ahead, even if they stay in Mexico.
When the immigrant arrives in the United States and is surrounded by their liberal "support" structure (who they trust as being "in the know"), they become convinced that it is of primary importance that they not lose their Spanish skills.
the country may have been set up that way, but that is not how it is playing out. Now the country is just filling up with losers who never morph into winners.
With all the many government handout programs --- housing subsidies, TANF, WIC, food stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, SSDI, free college, etc we're attracting the welfare class from Mexico --- the true dregs -- maybe in higher numbers now than we're attracting the good working types.
That's true even with government jobs. A guy who used to work in the state government of the estado de Mexico once told me that the hires down there were based on how much bribe money the potential employee was willing to cough up for, say, a two-year assignment. This happens right after the elections and is valid until the end of the overseeing politician's term. This, I guess, is for those who don't have connections but do have money.
No you fool they did not think of themselves as "the huddled masses", matter of fact they knew themselves winners and then they went out and proved it. What you quote is part of bit of nonsense from some proto-commie kook, and in no sense represents the sentiments of my ancestors. Face it your bit of moralizing is feckless feel goodism more reminiscent of Clinton than republican virtue.
el bump
"Huddled masses" before the giant welfare system was set up are different than "huddled masses" when there is every kind of government handout possible. With previous immigration from Europe a third or more returned to Europe within a short time -- not all could make it here but the Great Society has changed all that. Now we're bringing in the real dregs. Not all are dregs but the dregs are definitely part of what we're seeing coming over. The previous huddled masses were interested in learning the common language of this country because it helped to know English for school and work --- but not any more.
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