Posted on 09/10/2004 7:18:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
My Selectric can use either nylon ribbon or cloth ribbon. I use cloth because I rarely use it, and it seems to "regenerate" the ink over time, while the nylon is only good once.
Great post. You nailed it.
>>I think you'll see the o has visably jumped over much closer to the T. The Yo remain a little further apart.
Hard to say. I wish I had graph paper function on the computer, or graph paper to print out on.
I've seen arguments both ways about MS Word, but your evidence is very interesting.
My eyes are getting tired, glad I don't do this for a living anymore.
Thanks. I'm going to have to search for some of my old paperwork and take a trip down memory lane.
At question are memos that carry the signature of the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, who was the commander of Bush's Texas Air National Guard fighter squadron. They say Killian was under pressure to "sugar coat" Bush's record, and Bush refused a direct order to take a required medical examination and discussed how he could skip drills. Casting further doubt on the memos, The Dallas Morning News said in a report for its Saturday editions that the officer named in a memo as exerting pressure to "sugar coat" Bush's record had left the Texas Air National Guard 1 1/2 years before the memo was dated.
That is it. The Media has spoken--but there are wounded Bears (CBS) that are still dangerous.
Hope I'm not intruding on your territory.
Have taken the list and tried to assign them to categories. You may want to move them aground. Numbering has not been touched as I think we are stuck with those or the thread will never make sense in the future relative to comment postings.
This has been reduced to an Excel97 Spreadsheet with a single row for each line and all the HTML coding on the lines. Thus, you can drag the lines up and down and then simply copy a single column and paste into the Free Republic posting box with no further changes. Don't know how to do HTML tables so this is the best I can do to make it easy.
If you, or for that matter anyone else, wants a copy of the related Excel Spreadsheet, please send me a private message with your E-mail address and I'll send it over.
Unfortunately you can not just simply copy this posting itself into Excel as the HTML codes don't copy and you get multiple lines per item.
Regards,
Dick
P.S.: I think I have got all of the items and in the right place, but someone needs to check.
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a. Font, type, typography, equipment, etc issues that can be processed from the pdfs alone.
1. proportional spacing not generally available (no confirmation this type of technology was available at TANG)
3. superscripts not generally available
4. Small "th" single element not generally available (not common, but available. Highly unlikely the machines were available at TANG)
5. 4's produced on a typewriter are open at the top. 4's on a word processor are closed. Compare the genuine Bush ANG documents, where the 4's are open at the top, to Rather's forgeries, where the 4's are closed at the top
6. Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available – only vertical hash marks.
9. Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it. Typewriters had fixed margins that “rang” and froze the carriage when typist either hit “mar rel” or manually returned carriage.
11. Words run over consistent with word processor.
12. Times Roman has been available since 1931, but only in linotype printshops...until released with Apple MacIntosh in 1984 and Windows 3.1 in 1991.
13. Signature looks faked, and it cut at the very end of the last letter rather than a fade when pressure would have been released.
16. Exact match for Microsoft Word Processor, version disputed, but converted to pdf matches exactly.
18. Overlap analysis is an exact match (see #15).
19. Absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter. (see #8)
22. It would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer (not impossible, but for Killiam, who did not type, improbable).
26. Kerning was not available
35. Why is the redacted address of Longmont #8 visible beneath the black mark? This would have been impossible after one copy, but it would be visible if the document was scanned.
b. Issues that can only be processed by a better or original copy
17. Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
31. Is the document original or a copy of an original? Why all the background noise such as black marks and a series of repeated dots (as if run through a Xerox).(Rather explained his document was a photocopy-brings up additional questions of how redacted black address was visible from a several generation copy)
c. Issues that relate to custom and usage of text within the documents
8. Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
10. Date inconsistent with military style type. Date with three letters, or in form as 110471.
15. No letterhead
23. Bush's grade would be abbreviated "1/Lt" not "1st Lt"
37. Acronym should be OER, not ORET.
38. Last line of document 4 "Austin will not be pleased with this" is not in the same font and has been added!
46. The superscript "th" in the forged documents was raised half-way above the typed line (consistent with MS Word, but inconsistent with military typewriters which kept everything in-line to avoid writing outside the pre-printed boxes of standard forms).
47. Regarding superscript - typewriter example had it underlined in the keystroke but the forged document doesn't.
d. Issues that relate to the context of the document (people retired, day of week, ANG policy, etc.)
20. 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist (actually does exist, but Mr. Bush had already moved TWICE from this address at the time the memo was written).
21. Box 34567 is suspicious, at best. This would not be used on correspondence, but rather forms. The current use of the po box 34567 is Ashland Chemical Company, A Division of Ashland Oil, Incorporated P. O. Box 34567 Houston (this has been confirmed by the Pentagon, per James Rosen on Fox News)
24. Subject matter bizarre
25. Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.
27. In the August 18, 1973 memo, Jerry Killian purportedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." but General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
28. Language not generally used by military personnel.
29. Not signed or initialed by author, typist, or clerk.
30. Not in any format that a military person would use, e.g. orders not given by Memo.
33. Why no three hole punches evident at the top of the page?
34. Mr. Bush would have had automatic physical scheduled for his Birthday – in July! He would not have received correspondence.
41. The forged documents had no initials from a clerk
42. There was no CC list (needed for orders)
43. Subject line in memos was normally CAPITALIZED in the military
44. The forged documents used incorrect terminology ("physical examination" instead of "medical")
45. There was no "receipt confirmation box" (required for orders)
48. May 4, 1972 "order" memo and the May 19, 1972 "commitment" memo typeface doesn't match the official evaluation signed 26 May 1972. Or does the TxANG have a new typewriter just for Col. Killian's memorandum
e. Other issues (veracity of experts, etc.)
2. CBS admits that it does *not* have the originals, but only original documents can be proven to be real; copies can *never* be authenticated positively...repeat: only original documents can be proven real. CBS never had the originals, so CBS knew that it was publishing something that couldn't be assured of authenticity
7. The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, common tactic of forgers (confirmed by CBS).
14. No errors and whiteout (CBS used copies)
32. The Killiam family rejected these documents as forgeries. Then where did the “personal files” come from if not the family?
36. Why were these exact same documents available for sale on the Internet y Marty Heldt, of leftist web site Tom Paine, as early as January 2004? Is this where CBS obtained their copies?
39. Handwriting experts are not document experts – apples and oranges.
40. Lt Col Killian didn't type
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No brother---you go!
"On recommendation of Harris, I also suggested that we fill this critical billet with a more seasoned pilot from the list of qualified Vietnam pilots that have rotated. Recommendations were received but not confirmed."
Were they rotating back pilots from Vietnam?; Would they have called it a "critical billet"? Would he have referred to certain pilots as "Vietnam pilots", and kept a list of these pilots?; etc.
The Times Roman typeface is also used in IBM Composer. However, i don't think the IBM Composer, linotype, or anybody has the exact same metrics (e.g. kerning) as the Times New Roman truetype font.
Absolutely agree no one issue will put this to rest.
The doc does not use kerning (since using kerning is not the default in MS Word, this is what is expected ;-), but it uses overhang glyphs, like f, which is a characteristic of the computer font. It is interesting to check the samples of the alleged typewriter for overhang glyphs.
Questions mount on Guard memos' authenticity (Killian Signature Forgery?)
An expert weighs in...
I saved the picture posted and double-clicked the file name which was saved. This caused the saved picture to be brought up in the MS picture viewer. I then placed the cursor over the "fe" in the word "interference". Right-clicking allows selection of "zoom in" and repeated clicking will zoom in very closely. It would be my assessment that kerning is visible in this letter combination. It appears that the "e" is partially under the top of the "f".
Perhaps somebody more expert in typography and kerning would comment on this specific detail and/or capture and post the enlarged image.
Would the "overhang glyphs" be a form of kerning as suggested in my post #138 above? What is the FR concensus regarding "overhang glyphs" on typewriters? I would think that the typewriter would not keep track of which characters are being typed in order to permit the overhang. Is that not so?
Dan Rather will now suffer the professional and personal destruction he has earned from a lifetime of distortion and bias posing as objective news reportage.
And the CBS producer who "unearthed" the Abu Ghraib abuse-- which led to untold numbers of military and civilian reprisal deaths, and exponentially-increased hatred for America in the Muslim world--will herself be destroyed by the scandal...as she is directly responsible for it, and lazily went with it out of a drooling hatred of the President.
I hope they are both shattered by the evil they have done. Perhaps God will forgive them--and I urge them to start that work ASAP--but I, my fellow FReepers and the American people NEVER will.
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