Dan Rather Lied: Company that owns font did not License it till 1980!

Especially the Lehman citation.

101 posted on 09/10/2004 6:34:29 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

Has to be "intentional." In a country with straight judges, that mightn't be difficult to prove.

102 posted on 09/10/2004 6:35:21 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

Selectric Type III Type Element List from Manual:

103 posted on 09/10/2004 6:39:12 PM PDT by Thanatos

Though IBM may have had proportional spacing on its later model selectrics, it is rather crude when compared to what is achievable with kerning value tables that were implemented on the earliest electronic typesetters and todays desktop publishing programs. To optimally space every possible letter combination of every concievable font requires a lot of computing horsepower. It really only became possible on any kind of scale in the early 1990's.

104 posted on 09/10/2004 6:39:54 PM PDT by kylaka

I'm shocked,SHOCKED,that Dan is lying about this...NOT!

105 posted on 09/10/2004 6:40:32 PM PDT by nopardons

Me too, ariel is my favorite, FR is set to ariel on my computer.

106 posted on 09/10/2004 6:40:58 PM PDT by agrace

No--I want to see them BANKRUPT--as they are of scruples and ethics.

107 posted on 09/10/2004 6:41:28 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

"...a flesh wound..."

LOL, it does sound like the DNC is being run by Monty Python.

108 posted on 09/10/2004 6:43:09 PM PDT by Federalist_In_Michigan (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. -RWR)

109 posted on 09/10/2004 6:44:05 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

Dan Forger also said today that critics are focusing on the wrong issue. Also on Brits show, Juan Willaims said the same thing.

SO here is what I propose. Get a copy of a NY criminal arrest record and fill in all Dan Rather's info and have him arrested for selling cocaine. Then let us see if it is the seriousness of the charge.

When asked about his cocain arrest for selling, he can say but its a forgery.

110 posted on 09/10/2004 6:44:17 PM PDT by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)

To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Dan Rather's acting like some Cigarette Executive being interviewed by Mike Wallace.

Ain't karma great?

111 posted on 09/10/2004 6:44:45 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)

HOWEVER, they may have been too smart by half. They were to BE SEEN as official government documents. Intention plays a role in this, too. Otherwise, why all the forced military semi-regularities?

113 posted on 09/10/2004 6:45:58 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

troll - signed up today - begone

There were NO manual typewriters in common use that could produce these memos, certainly not a hand-me-down NG unit.

114 posted on 09/10/2004 6:46:17 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)

Perfectly centered address at top? It's because it's not typed. It's typeset. Slightly different font. Look at the numbers in the address and numbers in the memo closely

If it looks different, it's because the re-copying process has distorted the letters.

But if the address was typeset and the rest was done on a typewriter, how is it that the same letter, typed on Word, lines up perfectly. It would be a one in a billion shot that the paper was inserted into the typewriter so that the preprinted address exactly lined up with the text that would be typed. And then 31 years later a Microsoft Word document would exactly match it.

115 posted on 09/10/2004 6:48:15 PM PDT by Dan Evans

It sounds like CBS will attempt a Clintonian maneuver and deny. What's different is that CBS is a business. They may think they get away with it but they will pay a hefty price. Barring other circumstances between now and election day, this item may be a defining moment in galvanizing the conservative base and voter turn-out and turning conservatives into broken-glass Republicans for this election.

116 posted on 09/10/2004 6:48:46 PM PDT by plain talk

Has someone taken a look at Kerry military records to see if they were written in the same style?

If by style you mean forgeries, the Pentagon is looking at that now. Seems Lehman didn't sign the papers his signature was on. In that light, they are the exact same "style"

117 posted on 09/10/2004 6:55:50 PM PDT by Damagro (Kerry posesses all the best traits of a dog... well, except loyalty)

Woooooooooodent that be loverlee.

118 posted on 09/10/2004 6:56:09 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)

Dittos!
The Internet is becoming an acceptable alternative for up-to-date information for more people every year. Perhaps I'm wrong, but one of the main reasons so many people are turning from the "Media Wing of the Democratic Party", to news sources like FR, is because the process of discussion ultimately leads to greater ACCURACY.

I am an engineer. I was raised by an engineer. The scientific process does require challenging the hypotheses put forth by others. If these memos were put out there by a local weekly paper it would not be worth the effort, but discrediting the big guys is the best way to get people thinking about and questioning what they hear, rather than blindly accepting everything they are told.

That being said, discrediting the memos with bogus "facts" rather than good information, questions the credibility of FR. Under normal circumstances, the process of discussion on FR is what makes it one of the most accurate sources of news. However, when the whole group gets caught up in the excitement of "bash CBS" or "snag the DNC", it becomes more like a witch hunt or an emotion fest and less like a discussion amongst intelligent people.

For instance, many have argued that the Guard could not have afforded the machine that could do this. It's a weak argument at best. I call it the "far-fetched" argument. The "far-fetched" argument looks at the probability of an occurrence rather than the logical possibility of an occurrence. Probabilites are useful for determining which theory to test, but they are useless for ruling out 'modus operandi'. The typist could have used the machine anywhere. It could have been in his brother's business or the office of the guy who prints the newsletter. (You may notice that most liberal "expert" witnesses rely heavily on the "farfetched" argument.)

In another example of emotional v. logical argument, many have argued that the font did not exist. Another weak argument. It is much easier to prove something exists than something does not exist. This font did exist. I have posted the specs and the precise measurements of each letter from a 1968 technical internal IBM document.

The true Scientific Approach would be to determine the authenticity of the original documents through chemical and paper analysis. Handwriting analysis, while moderately subjective, is also helpful. Finding the colonel's fingerprints would be very damning indeed.

Accurately, rather than emotionally proving forgery, in this case would benefit the entire country. It is critical that the American people know if CBS or the rats are lying through their teeth, even if it does put "the burden of proof" on FR.

119 posted on 09/10/2004 6:57:26 PM PDT by TaxRelief (If only the Pentagon had run those WMD memos past FReeper Buckhead.)

To: Chad Fairbanks

Now that would be really personalizing your memos, wonder how many Lt. Colonels have that kind of obsession with their memos...LOL

120 posted on 09/10/2004 7:00:42 PM PDT by Kackikat

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