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Bush's "Ownership Society" Already Doomed by his Trade Policies
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Friday, September 10, 2004 | Alan Tonelson

Posted on 09/10/2004 2:36:36 PM PDT by Willie Green

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To: iconoclast
After the US Civil War all was peaceful. There was no KKK. There were no armed bands of men who roamed the countryside causing havoc.

Is that better?

161 posted on 09/14/2004 3:11:41 AM PDT by bvw
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To: KevinDavis

Companies are making profit. They want more. And as has been pointed out over and again - they didn't like supply and demand in the local market so they broke and ran. Now we're supposed to believe they like supply and demand - but we see they just like the supply from elsewhere while demanding US profits and more of them after feeding the slaves..

Slaves is cheapa massa.


162 posted on 09/14/2004 7:10:20 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc; All

So what.. A job is not a right... You want the government to control the "evil" companies??


163 posted on 09/14/2004 7:12:19 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

So if we disown the companies and tear up their articles of incorporation and revoke their business licenses to operate in the US... If you're going to sink US workers we have every right to sink the business. Afterall, the business doesn't have a default right to operate in the US - does it.
The incorporation papers and licenses are granted at the leisure of the people. They can be similarly withdrawn. Hello.

That wouldn't be "fair" would it.. lol. Fair is a matter of ethics. You don't understand ethics; but, I'm sure you understand the smackdown.


164 posted on 09/14/2004 7:43:34 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: John Lenin

LOSERs? lol. You're parading about with the name of a Hippy who married a whacknut job like Yoko and you want to hurl mud. Glass houses, bud.. rofl.


165 posted on 09/14/2004 7:46:21 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc

Life was not meant to be fair...


166 posted on 09/14/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
What's it called when citizens are asked to defend with their lives those corporations that will not hire them because to "turn a profit" corporations must give the jobs to people in other countries?

I'd really like to see the Free Trader response to this, as it seems difficult to find a country to 'outsource' the job of creating a stable environment for the 'global economy' our captains of industry always speak of.

167 posted on 09/14/2004 8:15:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: KevinDavis
Life was not meant to be fair...

Oh really. What you really mean to say is that since your nonsense makes it unfair, you wish to dodge by saying it was never meant to be fair. The appropriate thing to say is that 'life isn't fair' which is true; but, true only because we make it that way or allow it to be made that way.. which is the point being discussed. You want it to be unfair and to your advantage while we point out the ethical side of it and try to riegn you in. We've come a long way from each man farming for himself and selling the extras to being told a man can't do that and that he owes something to everyone else for the ability to do that - especially to you so you can have a cut in someone elses labor. Equity is only equity if it's more equitable for you, right. Let's can the pretense and look at why you can't address the issues head on and have to dodge. How about lets start shredding licenses.

168 posted on 09/14/2004 8:17:41 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: skeeter

Problem is these guys got a taste of hard cash on the top end and lost all sense of reality while they ditched their ethics in the endless search for more money. Their judgement has been impared by green. They have no real thought for their fellow citizens save for how they can use them to get more green. And everyone apparently owes it to them to make sure they get it.


169 posted on 09/14/2004 8:43:15 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc

Agreed. Those "international" American corporations who ordinarily distain patriotism in favor of profits sure do find it handy from time to time.


170 posted on 09/14/2004 8:52:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: tm22721
We are only kept afloat by the willingness of Japan and China to recycle their dollars back into US treasuries.
When that stops, look out below.

Yep, the government will no longer have access to a source of funding for its deficit spending, and any taxes that it manages to collect will have to go overseas to pay the interest on the debt already accrued.

Of course, if we default, we can always give them some of our hard assets instead of currency. Do you think China will accept Alaska and all its oil instead of our worthless paper currency?

171 posted on 09/14/2004 9:44:09 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: skeeter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215681/posts

This is killing me. Free traders say Ethics have no place in the profit environment and decision making realm of big business.. What do we do with CBS then ROFL. The absurdity of the tea party. Anyone ready to dump some crates?


172 posted on 09/14/2004 10:11:59 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: skeeter
RE: find a country to 'outsource' the job of creating a stable environment for the 'global economy'

Piece of cake, apparently.

Though Mr. Medved (today's second hour of his show) and his guest did not address the need for working class blood to defend them and their enterprises, they did make it clear that there was little desire for working class sweat to work for them. We Americans are just too stupid, lazy, temperamental, entitlement-crazy, and too expensive.

(Didn't Michael Moore say essentially the same about us Americans while he was in Europe?)

Outsourcing: It's us dummies' fault, not the poor corporate executives' fault.

We are poorly educated, to a man and woman, too stupid and lazy to augment our public educations and do well in college. We empower liberals in exchange for entitlements. We sue employers a lot.

What's a poor executive to do?

So asks Michael Medved and his guest promoting a book about bringing jobs back to America, "Bringing the Jobs Home."

What's a poor executive to do?

Over there are ten foot tall, brilliant workers. Here are the scum of the earth, us American workers, though both men allowed that it is not entirely our fault that we are such undesirables.

If the burden on the poor, suffering executives is to be lifted it's entirely up to us, the American workers. We Americans of the working class must stop proudly wearing a sign saying, "We are very expensive and we don't know very much. We will sue you, Mr. employer, if you 'look crossed-eyed at us.'" (Almost an exact quoted of Mr. Medved and his guest, BTW.)

Bringing the jobs (key word jobs) home. You see, the author Mr. Todd Buckholtz (sp) complained about the numbers of brilliant, outstanding foreign scholars being graduated from our universities and how utterly stupid and bad for America it is to send them home. Let them work here, he demands. Bring the jobs home, indeed.

And what about jobs for Americans? "Take two generations to get your act together and call us in 2040," I suppose is what Mr. Medved and guest would say.

173 posted on 09/14/2004 2:40:43 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I heard. Michael comes across as very small-minded when he attacks Lou Dobbs in absentia, who I thought came across far more civil & reasonable during their debate than Medved did.

BTW I don't know what Medved's stake in this debate is, but he's strident almost to the point of being hysterical, which is surprising because he's calm & patient on most other issues.

174 posted on 09/14/2004 2:55:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ARCADIA
The money squandered moving assembly lines around the planet could have been used to develop tremendous and highly competitive product ...

Bump!

175 posted on 09/15/2004 7:41:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Communism is a mental illness. Historical amnesia is its prerequisite.)
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