Posted on 09/09/2004 9:13:11 PM PDT by hope
Edited on 09/09/2004 9:22:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The forged documents passed through the DNC, the Kerry campaign, and CBS?
This at a time when Kerry's documents and records are already under scrutiny because of the Swift boat vets?
It would be hard to construct a more perfect storm.
Barring some Spainish election type event, it's over.
BTTT
If this is a forgery, I'm sure it's another in a long line of Karl Rove's stunts. But it's not a forgery. Come on, CBS vetted it with experts, of which there must be many. On the other hand, the detractors are all right-wing bloggers. (Who you know will attack anything that knocks bush.)
My only question Is how thoroughly did CBS review these documents? How many experts did they show these documents to before going on with the story? What were their background and area of expertise?
CBS is a creditable news source. They didn't get that way by being stupid. These docs were probably gone over with a fine tooth comb until they were sure it didn't have any nits.
what document? it doesn't matter. the guy's a deserter who kills for fun he is doomed to failure I don't care if they say it was hand-typed by Rove and given to Rather by Andrew Card dressed as Huggy Bear.
So Rove gave them to CBS? Is CBS that gullible?
There are real docs that the Whitehouse had and they created forgery forms of these docs and passed them off to discredit the real ones if they ever surfaced. It mucks it up enough that if real versions surfaced, noone would ever believe it - the "forgery" meme is planted.
I agree - its a fraud Walt has showed two other era documents "as proof" that have the superscripted "th" and none of them even closely resemble the document 60 mins had - they fell for it hook line and sinker. They look completely different in the way it was done. If I knew how to PSP them side by side I would but I am looking at them now and this 60 mins thing was a fraud and Rove is ROFL at them.
Oh, please. Like a bunch of amateurs on the Internet would be able to figure out something that CBS News stuck its neck out over and never thought to investigate. Riiight.
Yikes. I started out thinking this was a Rove plant, after reading http://www.warblogging.com / - then I was convinced it wasn't. I've been crazy all day about this thing. Now I'm back where I started. I need to be sedated.
What's with all you paranoid people? Get a grip!!! This is exactly what goo defence attorneys do...CREATE DOUBT!!!! There's absolutely no reason to think these doxs are forgeries! NONE!!!
Document is forgery -- this can become the basis of an allegation that the whitehouse continues to deceive the public by lying to us, sometimes in very clever ways.
CBS has to have something to substantiate the authenticity of the memos. If it doesn't, it has cost itself any credibility it had. Obviously, this wouldn't be good for a it's news division. CBS' story had to be thoroughly vetted!
Oh good GOD! Stop and think for a moment...IF it were discovered that they were a forgery then the media would HOT after the story of who did it and why. The blowback from that would be bigger than the actual story.
What crap. The issue is are they believable? Hell yes. And what the f*ck does a wife or son for that matter really know about husband/dad. Well sh*t, let's ask Hillary. What's really Rovian is to suggest the documents are fake. Chimp has been an underachiever his whole goddamn life, much to our pain, so why would they NOT be authentic?
BTTT!!!!!!!
I wonder how many hard drives are having fatal accidents tonight.
Sorry, but the Pats won it with take-aways.
And you know what? Bill Clinton delayed his bypass surgery to make the media pay attention to him immediately after the convention to take away the news of the convention, too!
...wait a minute, that one might actually be true!...
Circling Sharks is a great analogy!
Uhhh . . . .right!
This proves it! CBS is the media wing of the Demo-rat party.
That is a very good point and very important. To understand this story is very simple. CBS at the bidding of the Kerry campaign resorted to forged documents in an attempt to smear President Bush's National Guard service and was caught in the lie by regular people in less than a half-day. The next story is also pretty simple: John Kerry has been accused of making up other stuff on his war record and refuses to sign a release to turn over ALL the documents.
As a Pats fan and a PRO-LIFER, I hereby disavow any the existance of any alleged "anti-choice" movement and affirm your disgust with the term "turnover." I saw takeaways myself!
>>>> This is enough to show that the DNC is behind this.
I would love to think that, but if they were going to pull a stunt like this, even they would have known better than to use MS Word. This was such an amateurish hack job, it has to have originated either as a gag or a trap.
So who gave the copies to CBS?
This will hurt Hillary in the future because the MSM will no longer be able to lie for her with impunity. At some point, one of the networks will turn, there is too much money not to cater to the conservative audience by resenting both sides of issues. Once one turns, another will turn and we will have some objectivity back in the Media.
"The real tipoff that the memos were fakes was the fact that Killian emailed them ..."
LOL! Yea, you think that would have tipped them off that something wasn't right!!!
"If I was a Colts fan I would be pretty frustrated right now. They gave that game away with turnovers"
Not to change the subject of the thread, but the Colts did a major choke last night!
I only saw the last few minutes of the game and I saw a fumble on the goal line
Manning, who is suppose to be an expert on picking up blitzes get sacked to take them out of field goal range
What were they thinking holding on to the ball that long?
The Pats have their number like the old Steelers had the old Houston Oilers number.
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