Posted on 09/05/2004 4:22:12 PM PDT by freedom44
Some scores for you.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883611.html
Thanks for the info. Of course, not everybody takes the SAT, so the data is skewed.
The word 'data' is plural.
I think I saw more than one SAT score in the chart. :)
Actually, on checking just now I see that 'data' can be a singular word on occasion. However, as I remember the scientific journals I have published articles in in the last few years prefer the plural usage. I was taught the plural usage way back in the dark ages when I went to school. LOL
"Women are stupider than men eh? Maybe that is why a majorityh of law school graduates are now women. Maybe that is why women score higher than men on tests, including, although I am not sure, even in math."
Go ahead take offense, then when you calm down consider the facts and their effrct(s).
Fact: In about 1972The standards for admission to medical school WERE LOWERED because woman weren't making it in the numbers the leftist 'religious fanatics' felt that they should.
The effect, according to a thoracic surgeon writing in the NYPost a few years ago, is that males, who ARE IN FACT DIFFERENT FROM FEMALES in aggression and intelligence tended to go elsewhere to find the challenges that medicine no longer provided.
The result being that there are more and more avarage doctors who tended to become pediatricians and OBGYNs and FEWER of the sort of Doctor whose intelligence drive and skill (not to mention aggression)pushed back the frontiers of medicine as well as honeing the level of skill NECCESSARY to do the extremly difficult sorts of surgery that saves lives (Thoracic being one of them, he wrote that there were four--brain..etcetra).
The surgeons point was that when raw meritocracy dies males (forced by their unique nature)bail and find something else to do--something that challenges them, something that will allow them to find their own level among their peers.
The fact is that standards in ALL of the areas you cite were LONG AGO dumbed down to lift the female. As long ago as the late 19th century woman became doctors. These woman were ranked according to their marks in a meritocracy but the number was smalL and, to the chargrin of the leftist fanatics REMAINED SMALL DESPITE ALL ENCOURAGMENTS.
It's perfectly ok to describe woman as unique in many ways and uniquely talented in certain way but heaven forfend if there is anything unique about the idiot, despised male.
Males are the ones who are moved to climb a mountain 'because it is there'. They'll cross a barrier like the Bering strait because they DON'T know what is on the other side of it--they will look at the moon and find a way to it. Woman can imitate this sort of behavior but they can't ORIGINATE it. Which is why as columnist Maggie Gallagher (sp?) pointed out not long ago: "When woman enter a field that field loses prestige." THAT is a reflection of a VERY BIG DIFFRENCE between males and females. Like it or not.
"And why would that be an issue if they dominated or not? I just want to know, is the WASP doctor going to be a good doctor or a bad doctor. He can be an Arab with the last name "Bin Laden" and reek of gunpowder, I just want to know if he would take good care of me."
There's not a difference - and you're right, as long as he or she is competent it doesn't matter. My point is that most surgeons are still white males, which doesn't seem to be the case in England...
AMEN, this article is such a load.
I couldn't care less if my doctor is white, brown, black, yellow, or green for that matter if they can help me when I need it.
The Doc who did my double lamenectomy (sp?) (Removal of 2 disks in my back) was Indian. This guy rocked. Recovery time was as short as possible, and he damn near hovered over me through most of my hospital stay.
:) Don't even get me started on the PERFECT 10 Nurse who waited on me hand and foot. Suffice it to say, she made that crappy hospital food worth the stay.
Did I mention she is Filipino?
Geez, people get hung up on such retarded issues.
I went to a very prestigious and selective law school, admitted in 1974. At that time, woman made up about 20% of the class, and were about as distinguished intellectually as the men, and about as represented on Law Review. I really saw no substantive difference.
Come on people, let's get off this crap. This is dangerous.
More comments are on this thread.
How so? Enlighten us, newbie.
Some of the posts on this thread smack of racism!! Although I like The Telegraph as a grteat read, I am somewhat dismayed at the insinuation that if you are not a WASP, then the quality of healthcare will suffer. I would be more concerned with how many jewish doctors are quitting the profession or following other vocations than a WASP!
I like the Newbie reference.
cheers
'I would be surprised if woman entrants to med school and law school are less qualified than men per the numbers. But if you have "data" suggesting that there is a plus factor for admission to law and med schools based on gender, I would love to see it.'
Which of the words I wrote didn't you get? Am I making it up? The standards in Medicine, in Law, in law Enforcement, in firefighting in Officers School in the military, in Engineering electrical, machanical etc.. WERE LOWERED TO ACHIVE AN OUTCOME.
This has been going on for over thirty years. It has been written about and pointed out and ridiculed and wailed over for OVER THIRTY YEARS. EXACTLY what is happening now was pridicted OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO. If you want data for the sky being blue go get it yourself--or check in with Maggie Gallagher or any one of the scores of woman who have been writing upon the subject for decades. For my part I can't even believe we're still discussing ths as though it's some new un-written about thing.
Society has lost control of male aggression. It is on it's own out there doing whatever the hell it wants, creating it's own definitions and standards for it's conduct. I can assure you that what it is coming up with no woman will want a part of; trust me on this one, if, being a male, I'm not in your view too much of a moron to bother to trust.
anyone realize the reason could be becaues of money hungry hungry Sl%$ lawyers, Edwards for instance made more money inthe last 10 years than I hope to im my life
Still waiting for the verifying data that less qualified women are getting into law school and med school over more qualified men.
I would add, that it is American men who defend the freedoms that make all the those opportunities possible for American women. Without those men, all other arguments are moot.
I believe "white male" can easily apply to Jewish physicians. We're talking about a cultural divide here, not a racial issue.
If you're not a newbie, then please, let us know your previous screen name.
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