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Debasing our culture (BARF ALERT - smear job on Sheri L. Dew)
The Boston Phoenix ^ | 2 sept 2004 | Editorial Board of the Boston Phoenix

Posted on 09/02/2004 9:42:41 AM PDT by Grig

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To: Grig
Even if you extend it to meaning that opposing same sex marriage is as important as opposing Hitler it isn't offensive.

Yes it is offensive. Opposing the systematic slaughter of millions of people is much more important than opposing letting people whose beliefs about family differ from your own get a government-issued marriage certificate. Suggesting otherwise is highly offensive.

Personally, I think the government should get the heck out of the whole marriage sanctioning/regulating business, as it invariably violates a lot of people's religious and other beliefs (like when federal troops were dispatched to Utah to forcibly stop 19th century Mormons from practicing polygamy, in accordance with their religious beliefs), and is an unwarranted government intrusion into people's private lives. However, I wouldn't dream of suggesting that a campaign to achieve that end is comparable in importance to opposing what Hitler did.

21 posted on 09/02/2004 11:27:24 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Grig

I didn't say the BP had a valid reason for writing the article -- just that Dew's comments were indeed inappropriate, and when they are so easily retrievable in this Internet age, it should have been easily foreseeable to those choosing convention speakers that the comment would be dug up and used by hostile media outlets.


22 posted on 09/02/2004 11:29:31 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ppaul
Well, they shouldn't have had a woman from a cult that denies the diety of Jesus Christ open the convention.
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You couldn't be more wrong my friend. No Church is more firm in declaring the divinity of Jesus Christ than The Church of Jesus Christ, nor is there a better example of a Church whose leaders and members are sincerely trying to follow His divine example.

Your words amount to religious racism and uninformed name calling.

Besides...are you suggesting that Mitt Romney, Bill Marriott, Orin Hatch, and a huge and rapidly growing conservative voting block of highly educated voters, military generals, college presidents and CEOs are misguided and dangerous cultists? What is wrong with this picture?

On the positive side, not too many years ago, your sources were claiming that all Mormons have Satanic horns. "You mustn't talk to them or you will go to hell!" was the popular refrain. So things are looking up...

It is just that this kind of uninformed religious racism is not what this Country, or the Constitution, or the Republican Party stand for. And it is tantamount to calling African Americans the N word. A lot of Mormons have fought and died for this Country, and defended its principles, and worked hard to make this Country great, and a lot more are doing so now. Their beliefs are not dangerous and their skin is not spotted, or green or gray.

That Mormons' views about the nature of God differs from the Aristotelian philosophy embedded in the Nicean Creeds, should make them a dangerous cult, makes about as much sense as saying Macintosh lovers are going to hell because they don't use Windows. ; )
23 posted on 09/02/2004 11:31:18 AM PDT by LukeSW
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"Yes it is offensive. Opposing the systematic slaughter of millions of people is much more important than opposing letting people whose beliefs about family differ from your own get a government-issued marriage certificate. Suggesting otherwise is highly offensive. "

I belive the long term consequences of same sex marriage will be as devastating on our society in it's own way as Hitler would have been if he was not defeated, and LDS leadership has said 'we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets'.

There is no justification for choosing to take personal offence when the only things that has been critisized are policies, not persons.


24 posted on 09/02/2004 12:05:27 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

Hitler's Holocaust was a lot more than a "policy".


25 posted on 09/02/2004 1:19:01 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"Hitler's Holocaust was a lot more than a "policy"."

And the Holocaust was not the topic of the quote, the topic was the ISSUE of opposing Hitler (or not), and that was a policy decision. Notice the historic context of the original quote comes from the years BEFORE WWII.


26 posted on 09/02/2004 2:30:42 PM PDT by Grig
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To: weegee
Does the Boston Feces still have all of those sex ads?

See for yourself.

Down the left (ironic) side of the screen, under "Classifieds", "Adult Personals".

27 posted on 09/02/2004 4:42:14 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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