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GOP ducks discussion on illegal immigration
PROVIDENCE (R.I.) JOURNAL ^ | September 2, 2004 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 09/02/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by seastay

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"after showing that one does not have to be a right-wing ideologue to agree that illegal immigration is a real problem"

Now we know are nation is really in trouble when the lift wing loonies agree with the wing ideologues!

1 posted on 09/02/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by seastay
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2 posted on 09/02/2004 9:08:52 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: seastay

After the press conference, the attendees melted into the multicultural bazaar of Broadway - after showing that one does not have to be a right-wing ideologue to agree that illegal immigration is a real problem.


Nor do we have to be left-wing lock-steppers to agree with ZEL MILLER!

The Republican party, at leats allows differing opinions. I myself do not agree with Dubya's immigration policies, but that does not make him a bad president.

ANd just maybe, I dont have all the FACTS about his immigration policy - only media spin.


3 posted on 09/02/2004 9:09:05 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: seastay

This is a serious problem and a serious weakness in the position Bush has taken.

If there is a terrorist attack before the election and the media traces it back to illegal Muslim immigrants, it will probably cost Bush the election.


4 posted on 09/02/2004 9:11:30 AM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: seastay

Perhaps the Republicans should also revisit efforts to save the snail-darter - what the heck, terrorism and the economy are just so much fluff... /sarcasm


5 posted on 09/02/2004 9:12:06 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: seastay

This is a troubling issue for Bush. There is a large contingent of northeast Republicans, like those in the Southwest are vehemently anti-immigration. Combined with union Democrats, this voter block forms a large portion of America whose views are unrepresented by any political party. This won't stand for long. I have heard James Carville (regardless of your personal opinion of the man, he is still an astute mind on political issues) predict that growing discontent over the immigration issue will give rise to a populist third party presidential run in 2008 that will capture over 30% of the popular vote. I suspect he may be right.


6 posted on 09/02/2004 9:12:41 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: seastay

My view.....Deport, deport deport!


7 posted on 09/02/2004 9:12:51 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: applemac_g4
This is a serious problem and a serious weakness in the position Bush has taken.

I agree, but like I tell my friends.... as bad as Bush is on this issue, John Kerry will be far worse!!! I think that Bush will be forced to deal with this issue since it appears as though Al Qaeda may now be infiltrating the country through the Mexican border.

8 posted on 09/02/2004 9:15:53 AM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: seastay

bump


9 posted on 09/02/2004 9:16:07 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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"ANd just maybe, I dont have all the FACTS about his immigration policy - only media spin."

Would there be any logical reason to withold those facts from the American people?
Election time is drawing near.

10 posted on 09/02/2004 9:21:00 AM PDT by TexasCowboy
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To: Texas Federalist
growing discontent over the immigration issue will give rise to a populist third party presidential run in 2008 that will capture over 30% of the popular vote. I suspect he may be right

I think he's right. There are too many American voters who feel displaced by their party's refusal to represent them regarding this issue. Everyone I have talked to is absolutely disgusted about this.

11 posted on 09/02/2004 9:22:11 AM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN HEAVEN)
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Tancredo is the latest useful idiot of the Old Media. He is replacing Buchanan because Buchanan lost credibility as a "Republican".

Buchanan has trained his sock puppet Trancredo well and still keeps him on a short lease. Tancredo's Pac is chaired by Bay Buchanan and his webmaster is Buchanan's webmaster. They control his communications and contributor lists.

12 posted on 09/02/2004 9:22:55 AM PDT by bayourod (You're either for President Bush or against him. There is no "but...")
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Tancredo denies that his criticisms are hurting Bush: "I think the president's position on immigration is hurting the president."

BINGO!

Vote my tag line!

13 posted on 09/02/2004 9:22:55 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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Bush and Rove believe that an open-border policy will attract Latino voters to the Republican column.

So this is Bush's admission that his political party/career is more important than the security and the welfare of the common persons of this country?

14 posted on 09/02/2004 9:26:26 AM PDT by drypowder
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...growing discontent over the immigration issue will give rise to a populist third party presidential run in 2008 that will capture over 30% of the popular vote.

I will seriously consider such a party...like they say "You gotta break some eggs to make an omelete."

15 posted on 09/02/2004 9:26:58 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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I have heard James Carville (regardless of your personal opinion of the man, he is still an astute mind on political issues) predict that growing discontent over the immigration issue will give rise to a populist third party presidential run in 2008 that will capture over 30% of the popular vote.

Though I'm hoping for Tom Tancredo or someone similar in views to emerge within the GOP by 2008, a third party may be what's necessary if the politicians continue to ignore the vast majority of people who are fed up with open borders and uncontrolled immigration.

16 posted on 09/02/2004 9:28:01 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Would there be any logical reason to withold those facts from the American people?<<<

If the media is withholding facts, it is to undermine Bush.

If the Government is withholding facts, it is to undermine terrorists.

Why let terrorists reallly KNOW what defenses we have at the border?

I still remember "Campaign of disinformation"


17 posted on 09/02/2004 9:30:52 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: bayourod
Do you agree that illegal immigration is a concern or not? Instead of bringing up who is connected to Buchanan or who is Tancredo's webmaster, you should give a valid reason why this issue is being ignored by the Bush administration.

Even Zell Miller opposes Bush's amnesty plan, and I wish he would have said so last night during his wonderful speech.

18 posted on 09/02/2004 9:31:01 AM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: CurlyBill

Sadly, if this immigration issue defeats GW, all of us close-the-border advocates will sit back and say, "I told you so!", while Kerry takes away ALL restrictions on illegal immigration.


19 posted on 09/02/2004 9:33:21 AM PDT by TexasCowboy
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

a third party may be what's necessary if the politicians continue to ignore the vast majority of people who are fed up with open borders and uncontrolled immigration<<<<

I know this is in reference to the border issue, but I believe the two-party system is more workable than a two party system.

That being said, I would not mind seeing the fall of the democrat party, and a replacement made such as Liberatarian or Constitutional, or any other currently pro-American Third-Party as a balance to the Republican Party.


20 posted on 09/02/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by hushpad
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