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Stores swiftly accused
Ann Arbor News ^ | September 1, 2004 | Mike Ramsey

Posted on 09/01/2004 8:30:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: meeps

I was in Costco the other day and they had a stack of about 20-30 Unfit For Command books. I made a nice little display of them, placed a few with the cover out on top of Clinton's book. I saw a few being picked up while I was there, they were going fast.


41 posted on 09/01/2004 9:04:40 AM PDT by lmavk
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To: susiek

What about tales of folks going in, asking for the book, being told it was out of stock, then finding it hidden away in the, "Teen," section?

I had similar experiences when "Slander" came out.


42 posted on 09/01/2004 9:04:57 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I know there is no corporate wide conspiracy. At the corporate level they care about making money. Even at the store level. But at the employee level, is there a desire to give fair treatment? Is there an enforced desire to present fairly or is there a toleration of bias?

At one B&N I saw the whole front of the 'Current Affairs" table was left wing Bush Bashing books with the exception of Buchanan's right wing Bush Bashing book. On the sides and back (with less view) there were a few other non-liberal books, but none of the big sellers. They had Bob Barr's book. They didn't have any of the top sellers displayed...no Hannity, no Coulter etc.

A friend (elsewhere) told me that he had to ask for the book because they kept it behind the counter. They had it in stock, but did not put it on display.


43 posted on 09/01/2004 9:06:36 AM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowledge that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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To: Made in USA; susiek
I ordered mine from Amazon in July and still haven't gotten it. I wrote them once and they gave me a $5 gift certificate. I wrote them days later and they upgraded my shipping. A few days later I got an email about cancelling my order. I am holding on to it because I hope to give it as a birthday present.

I got another copy from B&N and could have bought one from Borders when they came out.

44 posted on 09/01/2004 9:06:58 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: cripplecreek

I asked Barnes and Noble in our neighborhood about the book and first they said they wouldn't have it til September. A week later (this was back in August), they said I had to get my name on a waiting list and there was no telling when they'd call me. I ended up ordering it from Amazon.


45 posted on 09/01/2004 9:07:38 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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To: Travis McGee

The Silver Star doesn't have a "v" because it is assumed to be a valor award.

Makes one wonder how Kerry got a notation for a non-existent award????

In the Army it is the equivalent of the peacetime "Legion of Merit." I'm not sure about the navy with this or the next...the bronze star.

Bronze stars in the army do have a "v."


46 posted on 09/01/2004 9:08:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The conspiracy angle was great publicity for the book! It kept the book in the press, that much longer.


47 posted on 09/01/2004 9:09:13 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: T Minus Four
There was a campaign to suppress this book. Make sure that it gets placed among the other "controversial" books in any "Banned Book Week" display this September 25–October 2, 2004.


48 posted on 09/01/2004 9:09:41 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My local store (New York) had about ten copies on Saturday.

However, they were separate from other bestsellers (and in a less prominent place---took me a while to find them) and no usual bestseller discount was offered.

49 posted on 09/01/2004 9:10:34 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I got mine from Costco a few days ago. There were only a few copies but they were displayed on the end cap of the aisle. There were stacks of Bill Clinton's book.


50 posted on 09/01/2004 9:17:33 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: susiek
When so many people on here were immediately claiming conspiracy and saying that they were never going to set foot in a chain bookstore again, I had the same reaction as the author of this article. The fact that this book had to be published by a small company and not a big boy of the publishing world is a sign of bias, but the bookstores themselves weren't turning away a source of profit just to spite Bush. Many people on here and in other places were far too quick to cry foul.

You're right, but they have a lot of weasely little twits working as store clerks, who do their best to hide books they don't like. A lot of us have finally found some conservative book hidden behind liberal books, or put in the wrong section.

So9

51 posted on 09/01/2004 9:19:49 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: RandallFlagg

"What about tales of folks going in, asking for the book, being told it was out of stock, then finding it hidden away in the, "Teen," section?"

Judging from how many FReepers have talked about selectively rearranging books or covering up a liberal book in their local stores, I would imagine that plenty of libs were doing that right back. If it's ok to hide a Clinton or Moore book, then why are we surprised if someone does it back? I've worked in a large bookstore--you can't constantly keep up with where books have been moved to by a customer. It's especially hard with a book you only have a few copies of (which is the case here because the small publisher can't keep up with demand and because the stores don't initially order as many books when it's coming from a small, lesser known publisher.)


52 posted on 09/01/2004 9:20:24 AM PDT by susiek
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To: proxy_user
So, are Bush-bashing books are heaped up in big piles at these stores because no one is buying them?

..here in Lexington, Ky...Joseph-Beth Booksellers has has HUGH pile of Bubba's, My Life...(similar to Hitler's Mien Kampf ) out front in the lobby...Anti-Bush and Pro-$hrillary are in great abundance.

53 posted on 09/01/2004 9:23:37 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Made in USA

I checked in the Columbia MO B&N on numerous occasions since the book came out. NEVER on the shelves -- not front and center nor hidden on the political shelf. AND I had to endure the affront of all the Lib books with numerous copies, often placed with the cover facing out instead of the spine. When I asked the clerk at B&N they said they'd order me a copy; told them I could handle that myself! Also heard from a local talk radio host that Columbia Bookstore was declining to sell UfC because it was lies. Likewise Peacenook (who woulda guessed!).


54 posted on 09/01/2004 9:24:40 AM PDT by Help! (Conservative in Columbia)
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To: susiek

The "only a few copies" argument doesn't hold water any more. A book cannot become a bestseller if there are only a handful of copies out there.

It has gone through at least 7 printings now (likely in ever increasing print runs).

Also, as others have commented, the political book displays are still overwhelmingly full of Bush bashing books. Why not put out some books by conservative authors as well since there are obviously a lot of conservative customers coming in looking for Unfit For Command. Whether John O'Neil's book is in stock or not, the prospective customer could still walk out with another purchase (and that is the whole point behind these free standing displays of political books, isn't it?).

Also "few copies" does not explain why the Houston Public Library has opted not to buy any copies of this book.


55 posted on 09/01/2004 9:25:30 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just goes to show...Democrats are BAD NEWS to business and profits.

The bookstores WANT to sell books...they make money selling books...Regency had NO IDEA that this book would be a "Number 1" top bestseller sensation...the longer people have to wait to read the facts...the longer the controversy stays around...

56 posted on 09/01/2004 9:28:22 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Wil H
this book has 1606 customer reviews on Amazon.com. More than both the clinton's books combined! Is this the most reviewed book of all time?

I read somewhere that for the first time Amazon just threw up it's hands and decided they couldn't keep anyone happy with the usual policy of screening reviews.

They decided to allow all reviews to be posted unless it was blatanly obscene.

I wish I could remember which blog...but the line I remember was the comments are basically a cage match between FR and DU.

It seems the left must write more bilious complaints to AMazon to get the policy changed than the right did with Bill's and/or Hill's book.

57 posted on 09/01/2004 9:29:48 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: Made in USA
The B&N store here in Columbia, MO still doesn't have it...and get out of the way in case the manager started throwing legal accusations at me for bringing MY book into their store.

hehehe... :))

58 posted on 09/01/2004 9:31:20 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: dead
It's a profit game, people. They like to make money more than push their agenda.


Is it?

How do you explain Hollywood? It has been shown that family movies make more money, but for some reason, Hollywood would rather make R rated movies (even when the the R is the result of language that could have been cut out, making it a regualar movie, and openning it up to a larger audiance.

How do you explain ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN? Even if 50% of the country is on the left, and 50% on the right, by catering to the 50% on the left they turn off many on the right, and they lose audiance (which translates into money). In my view Fox is not on the right, it is more in the middle, it is just compared to the others it appears to be far right. Watch it grow while the other networks fade.

How do you explain newspapers? Same as above, they have a bias, that bias comes across to their readers and they are losing subscribers because of it.


No, to us (conservatives) it may make good business sense to stock books we disagree with to make money, to a group that have a bias against conservatives, their agenda is first, profit is second.

59 posted on 09/01/2004 9:31:52 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: antivenom

The same people who boast of Michael Moore's relevance because of the success of his movie this year want to dismiss the content of this book.

Heck the Houston Public Library should consider stocking this book just because of the Houston association.


60 posted on 09/01/2004 9:32:08 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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