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Justices: Fetus is not a 'person'
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug. 29, 2004 | JANET ELLIOTT

Posted on 08/29/2004 11:51:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Idiot plaintiffs. Where oh, where is John Edwards when their is money to be filched?


41 posted on 08/30/2004 1:19:04 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: nickcarraway

Idiot plaintiffs. Where oh, where is John Edwards when there is money to be filched?


42 posted on 08/30/2004 1:19:16 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: nickcarraway
SAVE THE WHALES, KILL THE CHILDREN!
43 posted on 08/30/2004 1:26:39 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: Iron Eagle

http://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/Case.asp?FilingID=17264

Here's the rulings.
If I understand:
At the time of the injury, the new law was not in effect. Justice Smith makes the point that this is not a Roe v. Wade case.


44 posted on 08/30/2004 1:39:02 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: cpforlife.org; Askel5
I don't believe in characterizing the odds worse than what they really are either, which is, in my humble opinion, what Askel does, however sincere she may be about this mis-characterization.
45 posted on 08/30/2004 1:49:32 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: cpforlife.org; Askel5
"However there are more than a few good Christians who are trying. In some small ways momentum is building. Those good Christians DO have a right to proclaim with Christ all things are possible."

Which is the reason God has shown some mercy on our nation; i.e. we have not utterly destroyed ourselves....yet.

46 posted on 08/30/2004 1:53:13 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: cpforlife.org; TOUGH STOUGH

I'm not being gloomy in the least ... I'm merely stating the FACT of the matter.

If you fix the contraceptive mentality among Christians, the rest will follow. It's just the math. Plain and simple.

You can't eat your cake where contraception's concerned and have it too where abortion takes the "right" of Contraception to its only logical and reasonable conclusion.


47 posted on 08/30/2004 1:55:10 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

Agreed.


48 posted on 08/30/2004 1:55:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Askel5

I certainly hope you get to go back.


49 posted on 08/30/2004 2:05:28 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

=== Which is the reason God has shown some mercy on our nation; i.e. we have not utterly destroyed ourselves....yet.


I'm sure you're going to think I'm a gloomy Gus too but I think the fact we're still "cushioned" somehow from the reality of our destruction wreaked at home and abroad is not exactly an indication of God's mercy.

I think there is an efficacy in suffering to which those faithful who endured 80 years of militant atheist can attest but which we have yet to learn.


50 posted on 08/30/2004 2:06:00 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5; TOUGH STOUGH

I agree with Askel's 47. Absolutly.

And I believe Askel is NOT characterizing the odds worse than what they really are. In fact in more than a few ways they are worse. If I listed what I know it would crush most people's hopes.

But it does not help the Cause to spend much time on that. It is but dust to God. We can win, with Him.

Better to focus the energy on what can be done in the here and now.


51 posted on 08/30/2004 2:09:11 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

I wouldn't mind dying there, actually.
I've been fascinated by Russia since I was in 5th grade.


52 posted on 08/30/2004 2:09:11 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5
"I'm sure you're going to think I'm a gloomy Gus too"

After reading my posts I am certain you are just being facetious.

I don't agree with your assessment. That the faithful in other countries, may have deserved the mercy of God as much as or even more than the faithful in our own, is not the point. The point is if we were ALL totally lacking in faith and goodness, he would not have shown us any mercy whatsoever.

53 posted on 08/30/2004 2:20:36 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: cpforlife.org
"And I believe Askel is NOT characterizing the odds worse than what they really are. In fact in more than a few ways they are worse. If I listed what I know it would crush most people's hopes."

I strongly disagree with your first sentence.

What do you know? And how do you know that you know more than what other people know?

"But it does not help the Cause to spend much time on that."

Agreed.

54 posted on 08/30/2004 2:26:06 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: Askel5; TOUGH STOUGH

"I wouldn't mind dying there, actually."

ROFLOL--No, Askel's not a gloomy gus!

shall we nickname you SUNSHINE!


55 posted on 08/30/2004 2:29:41 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Askel5
When did folks get the notion they not only had a "right" to a child but a "right" to a perfect birth?

It's what the Nazi's tried to create - the MASTER RACE!

56 posted on 08/30/2004 2:30:42 PM PDT by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: nickcarraway
"A fetus is not a person." Hmmmmm. What is a fetus? A dog? A cat? A horse? Perhaps, surprising and revolutionary as it may seem, it is a human being with, after a surprisingly small number of weeks post-conception, all the electrical activity they look for if an adult is laying on the operating table and they're trying to figure out if said adult is alive or not.

Clearly, the inmates are running the assylum....

57 posted on 08/30/2004 2:33:44 PM PDT by mil-vet
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
"And how do you know that you know more than what other people know?"

I don't. I'm certain others know far more. I sure hope and pray they do.
58 posted on 08/30/2004 2:36:24 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

=== The point is if we were ALL totally lacking in faith and goodness, he would not have shown us any mercy whatsoever.


What sort of Old Testament god do you have in mind here?


59 posted on 08/30/2004 2:43:05 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: cpforlife.org

=== Better to focus the energy on what can be done in the here and now.


I'm agreed on that, you know.

I guess I'm still unsure that that keeping the truth from folks or allowing them "hope" via "wins" which are heavy on symbol but light on substance may not be the ticket.

It's really only once the truth began to dawn on me that I became the person I am. (Not so "gloomy" in person, you know ... )


60 posted on 08/30/2004 2:46:30 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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