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GOP platform pushes amnesty
NJ.com ^ | 8/29/04 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by Afronaut

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To: Barlowmaker

RINOs always get angry when you call them...RINOs.


401 posted on 08/30/2004 12:02:26 AM PDT by tame (Beware of La Raza sounding RINOs!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
"So, sure, they caught 543,000 -- while well over 2,000,000 got past them scot free. If you really want to get torqued, add the figures from Calfornia, Texas, and New Mexico. That punches it up to 4,000,000 that hit the home run so far this year."

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It just does not appear our federal government is serious when it comes to protecting our borders (and our citizens) from not only terrorist infiltrations, but illegal immigrant infiltrations to the tune of millions each year.

What would the federal government do if 4 MILLION AMERICAN CITIZENS refused to pay their federal income taxes come next April?

Would they be as lax in collecting taxes (used for funding corrupt entities such as the United Nations and the PLO) from otherwise law-abiding American citizens as they are in apprehending literally millions of illegal aliens raping the economic and political economy of our nation?

:~)

402 posted on 08/30/2004 1:51:51 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: potlatch; JackelopeBreeder; B4Ranch
"He may lose many more votes than he gains by not controling the borders and giving amnesty."

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That's what we've been saying around here for the last 3 years. Whoever advised Bush to take a gamble for Mexican votes by putting the border up for collateral may well be looking for a new job this time next year.

403 posted on 08/30/2004 1:57:57 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

It's hardly "fortune telling" to say his veto would have been overridden.

If that was his excuse for signing it, it is the sorriest excuse I've ever heard.

I'm not campaigning for or against the re-election of Bush.


404 posted on 08/30/2004 4:42:42 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: Iberian

Sleep ZZZzzzZZZZZ


405 posted on 08/30/2004 4:43:17 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: Guillermo
"It's hardly "fortune telling" to say his veto would have been overridden."

Of course it is. You have no way of knowing what would have happened if President Bush had sent the bill back to the House. You can speculate, but you can't ever know.

406 posted on 08/30/2004 5:49:49 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Vetoing kills the Bill.

You'd be hard pressed to find a law that passed with a smaller than veto-proof majority that eventually overode a veto.

There is absolutely NO WAY CFR would have been overriden.

Saying Bush signed it because a veto would have been overridden is simply absurd, and untrue.


407 posted on 08/30/2004 6:06:16 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: Guillermo

The War Powers Resolution.

Vetoing does NOT kill the bill.


408 posted on 08/30/2004 6:28:35 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Friend, if Bush had of vetoed CFR, it would have been as dead as a doornail.


409 posted on 08/30/2004 6:33:18 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: Guillermo

That's YOUR opinion, and you opinion only.

CFR had the support of a majority of the people in the U.S., and was six votes away from a two thirds majority in the Senate.

The house was just about a dozen votes shy.

Like it or not, CFR would have eventually passed.

One other thing, so would have the drug entitlement programs.

Your problem isn't that you don't like Bush, your problem is that you can't face reality.


410 posted on 08/30/2004 6:41:57 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Guillermo

John Kerry is campaigning on his Vietnam record because he can't campaign on Bush opposing campaign finance, and old people not getting their prescriptions. He can't campaign on how bad the economy is, and he can't campaign on the sorry shape of our schools. He can't even truly campaign on insurance becase it's in actually better shape than it was under Clinton.


411 posted on 08/30/2004 6:45:08 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Guillermo; Luis Gonzalez

Is this a Marathon? Did you guys even sleep?


412 posted on 08/30/2004 6:49:14 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Afronaut

Sleep?

Elections are just around the corner, no time for sleep.


413 posted on 08/30/2004 6:50:07 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I disagree with the strategy of giving the Left everything they want so as to take issues away from them.

The country was not clamoring for a new pill entitlement, for campaign finance reform or for socialized medicine.


414 posted on 08/30/2004 6:50:10 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: k2blader
At one time, wasn't the discussion of the platform part of what was discussed and televised, or am I delusional again? I'd really like to hear the discussions going on in the smoky backrooms...
415 posted on 08/30/2004 7:34:21 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: k2blader; All
Try this, I was just pinged to it:

http://www.gop.com/About/PartyPlatform/Default.aspx

I looked through it and see nothing about any kind of amnesty or anything that remotely resembles it. If someone else sees it, please point it out to me because the way it's written I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about.

416 posted on 08/30/2004 7:50:34 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
http://www.gop.com/About/PartyPlatform/default.aspx?Section=8

Is this reader friendly? Does anyone have the paitence to read this?

417 posted on 08/30/2004 8:04:27 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Afronaut
Is this reader friendly? Does anyone have the paitence to read this?

Well, they could use some help paragraphing, but if we're going to opine on something shouldn't we suck it up and read it first, no matter how icky it's formatted?

418 posted on 08/30/2004 8:06:08 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: itsahoot

Maybe if the party would reach out to them more, California and Florida would be easy victories.


419 posted on 08/30/2004 8:21:10 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: SandyInSeattle
This looks like last years platform, they would not use the phrase: "This Administration's lax enforcement". Even thought this is true of the administration that is in power now, I don't think the platform would point this out.

"The administration’s lax enforcement of our borders has led to tragic exploitation of smuggled immigrants, and untold suffering, at the hands of law-breakers. We call for harsh penalties against smugglers and those who provide fake documents. We oppose the creation of any national ID card. Because free trade is the most powerful force for the kind of development that creates a middle class and offers opportunity at home, the long-term solution for illegal immigration is economic growth in Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean. In the short run, however, decisive action is needed. We therefore endorse the recommendations of the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform:

Restore credibility to enforcement by devoting more resources both to border control and to internal operations.

Reorganize family unification preferences to give priority to spouses and children, rather than extended family members.

Emphasize needed skills in determining eligibility for admission.
Overhaul the failed Labor Certification Program to end the huge delays in matching qualified workers with urgent work.

Reform the Immigration and Naturalization Service by splitting its functions into two agencies, one focusing on enforcement and one exclusively devoted to service."

http://www.gop.com/About/PartyPlatform/default.aspx?Section=4

420 posted on 08/30/2004 8:41:41 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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