For Kerry's Chief Accuser, a Flashback to a Political Battle From 1971

1 posted on 08/27/2004 8:22:45 PM PDT by ambrose

The NYT likes the fact that he called Bush an empty suit.

2 posted on 08/27/2004 8:28:24 PM PDT by Nonstatist

To: ambrose; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...

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3 posted on 08/27/2004 8:32:05 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)

Slowly, grudgingly, the MSM start to understand how foolish they look carrying Kerry's campaign for him and begin to show a bit more respect for the Swiftvets.....

4 posted on 08/27/2004 8:48:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ

I have lawyer friends (aka slime) I know that are friends with O'Neill. They don't say he's smart they say he's a genius with an eidetic memory. And unbeatable when he knows he is on the right side.

5 posted on 08/27/2004 8:57:54 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.

Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

6 posted on 08/27/2004 9:02:25 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)

The rats accuse Karl Rove of being begind this. If that's true, Bush should double his salary.

7 posted on 08/27/2004 9:03:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Lieutenant Ricebottom reporting for duty.")

"Unfit for Command," is riddled with inconsistencies and differences with the official record.

A patented nyt technique: no examples.

Some colleagues coined the phrase "Johnovision" to describe his tendency to settle on a particular view and then defend it remorselessly.

A patented nyt technique: no names.

8 posted on 08/27/2004 9:06:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)

To: ambrose; Nonstatist; Smartass; Intolerant in NJ; isthisnickcool; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; ...

9 posted on 08/27/2004 9:14:25 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)

To: isthisnickcool

Yet the book he co-authored against Mr. Kerry, "Unfit for Command," is riddled with inconsistencies and differences with the official record.

This is just this sort of throw away line which betrays the fading New York Times. If this is the newspaper of record, if it is really willing to reveal all the news that is fit to print, let it "riddle" us with a few examples of the book's assumed inconsistencies. Let the New York Times not present the "differences with the official record" as that which calls the validity of the book into question, let the Times tell the reader that those "differences" are part of the explicit message of the book, a main point of the book.

It is this sort of sophistry, not flatly incorrect but smarmy nonetheless, which is slowly killing the reputation of a once great American institution. The Old Grey Lady is no longer the whited sepulcher which conceals all its corruption within.

10 posted on 08/27/2004 9:23:22 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack... Bull Halsey)

Not a great article, but it's fairer than the other stuff the Times has written. Of course, it is in the Saturday paper, their least-read edition.

11 posted on 08/27/2004 9:42:23 PM PDT by NYCVirago

Mickey Kaus wrote that some of his MSM media buddies are troubled because they find the SwiftVets to be quite credible.

12 posted on 08/27/2004 9:46:06 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)

Yet the book he co-authored against Mr. Kerry, "Unfit for Command," is riddled with inconsistencies and differences with the official record.

The offical record - written by Kerry.

Times is shameless.

13 posted on 08/27/2004 10:01:01 PM PDT by Shermy

Mickey Kaus wrote that some of his MSM media buddies are troubled because they find the SwiftVets to be quite credible.

They should be. Even the Houston Democratic Party chairman has said nice thinks about O'Neill. The thing the media has failed to focus on is that, contrary to the "web of connections" nonsense, these guys didn't need Republicans to spur them on with a reason to hate John Kerry. They already hated him on their own.

14 posted on 08/27/2004 10:19:23 PM PDT by NYCVirago

Thanks for the ping!

15 posted on 08/27/2004 10:31:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl

To: nathanbedford

The Times was once indispensable - up to about the 1980's. At this time, in such coverage as the leftist insurrections in Central America, its "news" increasingly metamorphosed into "analysis". A good-faith search for the truth was deemed to be no-longer applicable. The result today of accumulative years of unprofessional "analysis" is a paper only of opinion - and hardly the opinion fit to print (and worth the time to read).The Times is moribund. Too bad.

16 posted on 08/27/2004 10:55:21 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")

Look at what I found in reading a post about Brinkley in the Weekly Standard;

Item the first: The good professor is happy to help the New York Times prepare a front-page August 20 story reporting that the unflattering accounts of John Kerry's Vietnam career being offered by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are "riddled with inconsistencies."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/509jmhpw.asp?pg

This is a good illustration of how disinformation becomes Lexus/Nexus gospel.

Worse, here is the New York Times quoting itself exactly 8 days later,without attribution, in turn quoting the author of the very book which provoked the book critical of the author.

And so the Old Grey Lady exposes herself again as she bends over to pull on the ole bootstraps.

17 posted on 08/27/2004 11:04:23 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack... Bull Halsey)

Please see my post 13.

18 posted on 08/27/2004 11:09:59 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack... Bull Halsey)

Mr. O'Neill, who says he graduated first in his class from the University of Texas law school and clerked for William H. Rehnquist when he was an associate justice

Note: These are easily verifiable facts.

So what's the Time's point here? That it is O'Neill and not Kerry who is the prevaricating and seditious self-promoter?

19 posted on 08/28/2004 3:52:10 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

20 posted on 08/28/2004 4:03:03 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)

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