The Facts about Bush and the National Guard - The Democratic charges fall apart.

National Review Online ^ | August 26, 2004 | Byron York

[Mockingbird For Short]

I agree with all you said. I think it all goes back to misunderstanding the "turn the other cheek" idea. Somehow, this teaching of Christ, having to do with a Christian's response to his PERSONAL enemies, has been misconstrued and misapplied in such a way that good people think they are "sinning" if they dare defend the truth about themselves. IOW, they think that defending the truth ABOUT themselves is the same thing as defending THEMSELVES, and they think defending THEMSELVES is against Christ's teaching. Meanwhile, they let the truth be buried.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

You're welcome...I put that site together after I heard McAuliffe for three straight days crowing on every news channel.

[KOZ.]

great points this something i got from this website (http://www.geocities.com/bush_not_awol//treatment.html) regarding those allegations:

Claim: Some of have charged that George W. Bush “leaped ahead” of 100,000 other people on waiting lists to join the National Guard. They say this proves he used influence and received favorable treatment as a result.

Truth: This is fallacious at best. There may have been 100,000 on waiting lists across the whole country in all 50 states at the time, but not in the Texas Air National Guard, which is where Bush signed up. It is like walking into a grocery store and finding an empty line, but someone says in all the other stores across the country there are hundreds of thousands in waiting. This analogy just demonstrates the ridiculousness of this charge, which the media doesn’t mind highlighting over and over again. The man in charge of the list said there was no waiting list for willing, qualified pilot applicants.

In 1999, the Dallas Morning News reported:

Records provided to The News by Tom Hail, a historian for the Texas Air National Guard, show that the unit Mr. Bush signed up for was not filled. In mid-1968, the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, based in Houston, had 156 openings among its authorized staff of 925 military personnel.

Of those, 26 openings were for officer slots, such as that filled by Mr. Bush, and 130 were for enlisted men and women. Also, several former Air Force pilots who served in the unit said that they were recruited from elsewhere to fly for the Texas Guard.

"He told me they were looking for pilots," Mr. Bush said. He said he was told that there were five or six flying slots available, and he got one of them.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

It's wonderful!!

[maica]

Can you tell me what the difference in that and John Kerry leaving Vietnam early and then asking for an early out is?

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One difference is Kerry asked to leave ahead of schedule in late 1969 = still the height of the war

Lt Bush asked to leave in 1973 when the US was flooded with unemployed pilots, and the pentagon was practically begging pilots to resign their commissions.

I know this kind of detail is really too much for soundbite news, but thought you would like to know it.

[KOZ.]

oops, i messed up the link... http://www.geocities.com/bush_not_awol//treatment.html

[KOZ.]

thats a great site!
thanks, i just posted some of the research from there on this board.

[Howlin]

Thanks.

I'm trying to get this straight in my mind and every little tidbit from those who know sure helps.

[moehoward]

bump

[Pagey]

A "Forward To Others Later" BUMP!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.



NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE

From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE



Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

[NYCVirago]

Another issue to consider is the smearing of the Guard by the democrats. They have made it sound like it was a joke to serve there, that there were no requirements and that by joining the Guard you were a draft dodger and a scumbag.

The libs' latest spin is that the SWVT are dividing people, and pitting veteran against veteran, and if you question one Kerry Vietnam claim, you're bashing all veterans. But the thing is, we have Dems declaring that Bush is a draft dodger because he served in the National Guard, something millions have done. If they want to talk about bashing the military, there is Exhibit A. I can't imagine that anybody who served in the Guard is going to be pleased about the Dems calling them draft dodgers.

[Ciexyz]

I had several male relatives serve in the National Guard during the Vietnam era, and no one considered them draft dodgers. It's only the Demopukes who are throwing charges about NG service in an attempt to discredit President Bush.

[malia]

I would just answer -- and?.

[KOZ.]

check out post 63 above.
its from a great site.
answers all my questions.

[OldFriend]

The facts and the truth are very inconvenient for the america haters.

[maica]

PS - A pattern I have detected about Lt Kerry's service is that superior officers never seemed to mind him leaving their area. I have a sneaky feeling that the real story about the third granted, 'first injury' purple heart is that Kerry's superiors discovered the 'schrapnel' story and suggested that he take the PH #3 if he WOULD leave. The real documentation for this one is liable to embarass some retired officers, unfortunately, if (when) it comes to light.

I believe part of the subtext of the Swiftees stories is that Lt Kerry was not only difficult to work with, he was so irresponsible that he was dangerous to others.

Color me very cynical.

[CyberAnt]

I think that depends on your assessment of "hero".

Any guy who gets up at 3am (when he could have been in a comfy bed), and who straps himself into a BOMB with wings, is every bit the "hero" in my book.

[kitkat]

You're right! I couldn't believe it when Kerry equated the Guard to draft dodging. What a STUPID thing for a STUPID man to say.

[deport]

Thanks and bookmarked.... This has been reviewed and it makes little difference to the detractors.... York does put it in perspective of how much time is required to complete one years obligation..... Of which the President made each year.....