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Bring on the 'price gougers'
Boston Globe via Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2004 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 08/24/2004 9:58:31 AM PDT by Tom D.

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It never ceases to amaze me how little people appreciate the power of supply and demand. Econ 101 ought to be a required high school course.
1 posted on 08/24/2004 9:58:32 AM PDT by Tom D.
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Moreover, consumers have a right to take revenge. If a retailer price-gauges during an emergency, consumers can just go elsewhere when there isn't one.


2 posted on 08/24/2004 10:01:08 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am AmishDude and I approved of this message.)
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Jacoby... the one voice of sanity at the Boston Globe.


3 posted on 08/24/2004 10:01:52 AM PDT by rhombus
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I don't think he adequately addressed the allocation principle involved. Using bottled water as an example, imagine that no price increase occured. The first few customers of the "water store" would buy all the water and none would be left for future customers with the same need for water. If the prices increase ten fold, the first customers will only buy enough water to meet their most basic need for bottled water, therefore more customers will be able to meet this most basic need. The high prices make sure that more people can meet their needs.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 10:11:03 AM PDT by CSM (To spread the wealth the liberal is willing, he'll take YOUR dollar and keep his shilling. -albertp)
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To: Tom D.

Where I went to high school it was, but unfortunately, it was taught by a socialist.


5 posted on 08/24/2004 10:16:26 AM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: Tom D.
The author's economic principles are correct and they make great salon discussion with all the hypotheticals. But we're talking about real human suffering on a massive scale down here.

The "system that could instantly respond to a calamity like Hurricane Charley by mobilizing suppliers to speed urgently needed resources to the victims." The system that can" ...quickly attract the out-of-town manpower needed for cleanup and repairs, while seeing to it that existing supplies were neither recklessly squandered nor hoarded." And the system that..." could prompt thousands of men and women to act in the public interest, yet not force anyone to do anything against his will," is the Church and its many, many relief ministries that are down here right now dispensing grace and mercy right where they can meet human need!

Price gougers are buzzards and rank only slightly above the looters.

6 posted on 08/24/2004 10:50:59 AM PDT by dukeman
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter

ping


7 posted on 08/24/2004 11:09:55 AM PDT by IncPen (Every Word From Kerry's Mouth is a Dishonorable Discharge)
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Moreover, consumers have a right to take revenge.

But why take revenge against someone who is helping you?

8 posted on 08/24/2004 11:37:20 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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Price gougers are buzzards and rank only slightly above the looters.

But both buzzards and gougers perform a useful service. Without gougers, life would be much more miserable. Why hate someone who can make your life better?

9 posted on 08/24/2004 11:42:01 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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I don't hate anyone. I simply call a buzzard a buzzard. The gougers aren't helping anyone. They're stepping hard on the truly helpless. Sorry, but I'm not buying the "gouger as filling a public interest need" line today. Perhaps I will after the sting wears off around here.


10 posted on 08/24/2004 11:49:28 AM PDT by dukeman
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Sorry, but I'm not buying the "gouger as filling a public interest need" line today. Perhaps I will after the sting wears off around here.

The sting it is going to take a lot longer to wear off if you have to wait a year before you can hire someone to get that tree off your roof.

11 posted on 08/24/2004 12:03:41 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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If Loews gauges during a storm, and Home Depot doesn't, you should remember it and reward Home Depot. I remember a story long ago where HD did just that during a storm and ended up with a much bigger market share later.


12 posted on 08/24/2004 12:13:23 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am AmishDude and I approved of this message.)
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And perhaps the sting won't wear off the gouger when he finds out his county jail cellmate is named "Meat" (and that's not a nickname). Oops! Did I say that? Gosh, maybe I do hate gougers......
13 posted on 08/24/2004 12:29:35 PM PDT by dukeman
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If Loews gauges during a storm, and Home Depot doesn't, you should remember it and reward Home Depot. I remember a story long ago where HD did just that during a storm and ended up with a much bigger market share later.

I suspect that local businesses support anti-gouging laws. Without outsiders coming in and cutting into their trade, local establishments will have a nice steady business for months after a disaster.

Pity about the poor consumers though.

14 posted on 08/24/2004 12:34:49 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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And perhaps the sting won't wear off the gouger when he finds out his county jail cellmate is named "Meat" (and that's not a nickname)

Good point. When gouging is outlawed, only outlaws will gouge. That means the people you will have to hire to dig yourself out of the mess are going to be seedy looking goons with tattoos.

There is no way that decent people are going to travel to Florida to do business helping people out if the law has a chip on its shoulder and the long knives drawn.

15 posted on 08/24/2004 12:45:25 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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The decent people are already here. They're in the disaster response ministry teams which I already mentioned.


16 posted on 08/24/2004 2:09:38 PM PDT by dukeman
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When there is a high demand and limited supply of anything, there has to be a way to ration it. Raising prices not only rations the immediately available good in a rational way, but it also insures that the supply will become much less limited as quickly as possible.

For instance, suppose I sell widgets. I can get $10 per widget at my home in Swan Quarter, NC. Suppose that I read that widgets are going for $100 apiece in southwest Florida. That might induce me to pack up my supply of widgets, leave my comfortable air conditioned house and my lovely wife, and drive a large truck or train load of them to Florida, so that I can sell them at a higher price.

The beneficial effect of this is two fold: first, it makes widgets available to the residents of southwest Florida at some cost; and second, it increases the supply of widgets in southwest Florida, thus putting downward pressure on the price.

If I cannot charge a higher price for my widgets in southwest Florida than I can get at home, I am going to stay home in my comfortable air conditioned house with my lovely wife and perhaps donate a dozen cans of food to the food drive that some church will have to help the victims of Charley. (N.B. Expect some snide comment from southernnorthcarolina about it being more pleasant in ravaged southwest Florida in the middle of a hurricane than being in Swan Quarter on the most pleasant day of the year.)

Perhaps this argument breaks down when you are dealing with something like insulin, but I have been through many bad hurricanes in 50 years of living in coastal North Carolina. In reality the absolute necessities of life are not in short supply for any significant period of time. The wonderful people of the Salvation Army, various churches, FEMA, the National Guard, and a raft other government and eleemosynary institutions are on the spot within 12 to 24 hours with food, clean water, diapers, medicine, etc.

It is unpleasant for days and weeks after a hurricane, but making goods available at some price cannot hurt the situation, and as stated by Jacoby, it almost invariably helps the situation immensely. If you still doubt what Jacoby says, read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations

17 posted on 08/24/2004 2:51:38 PM PDT by Tom D. (Beer is Proof that God Loves Us and Wants Us to be Happy - B. Franklin)
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The decent people are already here. They're in the disaster response ministry teams which I already mentioned.

If private charities and government relief efforts could do the job alone, then the "gougers" would not be able to do business.

18 posted on 08/24/2004 3:10:28 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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When there is a high demand and limited supply of anything, there has to be a way to ration it.

Very true. And the best ration coupon is the dollar bill.

Another benefit of allowing prices to rise is that it discourages hoarding and tends to cause supplies to appear that otherwise wouldn't.

19 posted on 08/24/2004 4:48:15 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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"And perhaps the sting won't wear off the gouger when he finds out his county jail cellmate is named "Meat" (and that's not a nickname). Oops! Did I say that? Gosh, maybe I do hate gougers......"

Excellant! What a wonderful philosophy of government intervention in the market! What other conservative platform planks do you wish to have removed?


20 posted on 08/25/2004 4:55:22 AM PDT by CSM (To spread the wealth the liberal is willing, he'll take YOUR dollar and keep his shilling. -albertp)
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