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Hero Speaks Out Against Kerry
Northwest Veterans Newsletter via BLACKFIVE ^ | 16 Aug 04 | Major General (ret.) Patrick Brady

Posted on 08/23/2004 6:24:32 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 08/23/2004 9:16:28 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...
Excellent article...


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22 posted on 08/23/2004 9:19:51 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Cannoneer No. 4

23 posted on 08/23/2004 9:23:42 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Bump.


24 posted on 08/23/2004 9:25:50 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Smartass

Thanks for a very good article.


25 posted on 08/23/2004 9:27:09 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

bttt


26 posted on 08/23/2004 9:27:42 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Vietnam veteran has been an exceptional citizen; but there is one disturbing statistic -- their suicide rate. In the first 5 years after discharge the rate was 1.7 times higher than non-veterans.

Along with this he provided aid and comfort to the enemy, worsened conditions for POWs and advocated a policy that ultimately led to millions dead in Communist purges.

John Kerry has contempt for this country and for liberty and freedom. How can he be fit for command at a time of war, how strong will he stand against our enemy, how resolute will he be in Afghanistan and Iraq. Like his runnig mate said, ask the men who served with him.

27 posted on 08/23/2004 9:33:54 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: ppaul
What Kerry did or didn't do in Viet Nam is really a moot point.

It is hardly a moot point. Does anyone think Lyndie is qualified to be CIC? What kerry did in Viet Nam was a lot worse than putting panties on terrorists heads. By his own account, he committed war crimes. He should be in Leavenworth, not the Oval Office. Acknowledging this fact does not in any way dimish the seriousness of his crimes and misdeeds since that time.

28 posted on 08/23/2004 9:37:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

good post bro..


29 posted on 08/23/2004 9:40:28 PM PDT by herewego
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
... But nobody knew it at the time ...

Bull! I was at Dewey Canyon III and I saw and listened to Jf'nK. I've told the story before, but I've put a few things together in my mind since then ...

I'd been working for the Army/AF Exchange System in Northern Virginia. Inventorying vending machines, for crying out loud. I found out about the veteran's in the Mall by observing army training at the forts. Both for that event, but primarily in riot suppression training for the MayDay events that followed. Really an ugly time.

I was working and living in N.Va, and went into town and found the dudes in the Mall. They were trying to police the perimeter, and you were asked who you were with and non-vets weren't let in, unless the were black, wearing black berets. I worked during the day, then went to the Mall, then crashed in back in Alexandria. The Marines that I found were bonafides, and it was obvious in our bs. None of the little click I was hangin' with was really antiwar, more into pro-party. Anyway, I missed the silliness of the search and destroy in the Monument area, but the dudes told me about it, how ridiculous it was, but how they laughed like children.

I don't remember what day it was, but some of the black beret'ed commies came over to our group and solicited us to go listen to a 'bigtime hero', a Navy Cross winner. Well, we got off our duffs and went to listen to this NC awardee. Marines hold NC awardee's in extreme high regard. What we heard was this commie puppy, John Kerry. His rhetoric was extremely Leninist, replete with references to the proletariat and the worker's struggle, and throughout mixed with comrade this and comrade that. He was introduced as a NC recipient, and did not deny this. For years, I accepted as fact that he had an NC. It was only during this campaign that I realized otherwise. We were not impressed with this commie, and laugh and ridiculed his dogma as we left.

It was shortly after this that our group was solicited to testify before congress to things we had actually done. We refused, on different levels. That what we had done had been done in honor, and that we had no intention of damning our brothers who were still there. The black beret's tried intimidating us into testifying, saying if we did not do it they would have people pretend and to tell the stories for us. It got really hot at this point almost came to blows. I don't remember if I was being held back or holding someone back, I think the former, but the black beret's beat a retreat. It was either this day, or the next that the medal ceremony took place. There was a dude with a bag of who knows what type of medals for whomever would care to pitch them onto the steps. To the best of my knowledge, there was no attempt to limit this to vets, and the majority of those were hippies, pretending to be vets.

This Hubbard dude was there with sKerry, wearin' a black beret, and sKerry had a gaggle of these clowns around him at all times, like handlers/bodyguards. My mates and I recognized Hubbard as a liar right outta the gate. Also in attendance were the wheelchair brigade. 4 of them. I think one was Kovic, but I'm not sure. I do remember my bro's and myself envying the babes that they attending to them, (seemed like they were the onliest ones who were allowed babes). We joked it was no doubt why they were in the antiwar movement.

When Kerry ran for senate, his name rang a bell, and his picture, well, was his picture. He was a whiny communist back then, and he is still a whiny communist. Phuc Hanoi John Kerry!

30 posted on 08/23/2004 9:54:41 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Smartass

Thanks for the ping to a GREAT article.


31 posted on 08/23/2004 9:55:54 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ppaul
What counts is what he did after he returned to the United States.....

We all know this to be the major cause of distress for all Vets of the era, but the problem is that the general voting public majority knows or cares little about Kerry's anti-war BS.

The polling done on the second ad initially seems to show little effect, and I think it is for the reason above.

His anti-war antics seem to mean little to anyone under 50 years of age and it will not be enough to put his campaign on the skids.IMO

If being anti-war was a issue, it would have shown up in his prior election when the same subject was brought up time and time again. They just don't care that he hurt us worse than any wound could have.

Kerry must be shown for the opportunistic bastard he is.IMHO His bogus statement meant nothing at the time and since. John O'Neil, who fought him desperately and lost in the 70s can attest to this dilemma. He must be beaten by showing the public his total lack of character by putting all of it on the table. Including the acts after he came home as a part of the whole story.

32 posted on 08/23/2004 9:57:18 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: 68 grunt

Would you please repost this here

Exposing Kerry's Vietnam "record" WITHOUT mention of Swift Boat Vets Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1197486/posts


33 posted on 08/23/2004 10:02:03 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: AUsome Joy

I saw that too, but you know what? I ran it through my spell checker and it came out clean. I wish I could find a poem that a friend sent me years ago. It was awl about his spill checker. Many words where knot spelled write, butt of coarse, the spill checker did knot catch them.


34 posted on 08/23/2004 10:10:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

VBR, here's a quick editing. Still long, but I hate to cut it any further.



Kerry titles his book about his Vietnam service, "Tour of Duty". He actually claims that he had TWO tours of duty in Vietnam because of his time on the USS Gridley.

You have to watch EVERY WORD THIS GUY SAYS. He has lied so long I think he’s forgotten what the truth ever was. KERRY NEVER EVEN SERVED ONE TOUR IN VIETNAM, LET ALONE TWO!

Yes, he was in Vietnam (for 4 months) and yes, he was on the deep-water coast of Vietnam on the USS Gridley (for 5 weeks), but a tour in the Nam was 12 months--one year, 365 days, one circle around the sun. Guys would count down the days until their time was up. It was a big deal. When you only had a few weeks to go until your year was up, you were "SHORT"--going home soon. John Kerry didn’t stay around long enough to even learn the language of the men he then went home & trashed to the world.

I have read.Unfit for Command. The Swifties could care less if John Kerry got medals; their issues are (1) that Kerry smeared their good name with his lies, (2) that Kerry cannot be trusted with this nation’s future..

Kerry embellished (lied) in his after action reports to get medals that he didn’t deserve. He lied when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top! They were the worst kind of what the Bible calls “Bearing false witness”.

POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his lies to the Senate and the American public were tortured,threatened with being tried as War Criminals, & “would never go home” largely because of Kerry. What he did to them is unforgivable.

General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military, and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975, both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communists’ military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the antiwar movement in America (led by John Kerry and his lies) they felt that the demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

America was kicking the Communists’ butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communists’ number and was winning the war in 1968 when American casualties were 10,000 instead of the final toll of nearly 59,000. Kerry & his demonstrators can claim most of the credit for America’s losing the war in Vietnam.

Because of John Kerry and others like him there are maybe 48,000 more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there should have been--not to mention the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out. (That “bloodbath” at the hands of the Communists that Nixon feared but Kerry assured Dick Cavett “would never happen”).

When I returned home to Los Angeles from Vietnam in 1971 my head was spinning as I walked through the Terminal at LAX, thinking about the culture of war that I had just left while looking around at the opulence of America. When I stepped outside onto the sidewalk a group of “Longhairs” walked by and one of them spat on me while the others called me a “Baby Killer”. I feel that the treatment that I received and have lived with for the past 33 years was due to John Kerry and his lies.

John Kerry does not have the moral integrity, judgment, or simple human decency to be the Commander-In-Chief of the world’s most powerful military. John Kerry is unfit for command.


35 posted on 08/23/2004 10:28:49 PM PDT by GaretGarrett
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 08/24/2004 3:02:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: BykrBayb

Spell-checkers are not ready for prime time, at least the one I used ONE time!
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37 posted on 08/24/2004 4:16:22 AM PDT by GaretGarrett
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

WOW! I was just wondering yesterday if the book was online anywhere. Praise God! I heard John O'Neill saying yesterday he'd reprint it LOL.Wonder if he knows this.


38 posted on 08/24/2004 4:48:14 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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To: PhilDragoo

good rhyhme


39 posted on 08/24/2004 5:22:16 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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To: 68 grunt
He was a whiny communist back then, and he is still a whiny communist. Phuc Hanoi John Kerry!

Bump.

40 posted on 08/24/2004 5:42:28 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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