Posted on 08/19/2004 12:50:51 PM PDT by gilliam
"Kerry served his country in combat. I have nothing negative to say about that. He did more than most. Kerrys exaggerations of his heroics are just ridiculous. I have found that those that brag about their heroics are almost always exaggerating. Seems to be the case here."
I have alot negative to say. He aided the enemy, he has blood on his hands, he is a traitor to his fellow soldiers, he is a liar. He cannot be allowed to be the leader of our troops.
Two words that should be seared, seared into the minds of all Americans.
KERRY LIES
Two words that should be seared, seared into the minds of all Americans.
Kerry read the Scott Peterson Handbook on public relations.
Even if that's all there is to it, then they have something to gain by preventing his election. That was my point. If they had brought up all these concerns about getting the story straight about what happened in a year when John Kerry wasn't a candidate for president, then it might reasonably be argued that they have/had "nothing to gain". This year, something more than merely the factual account of an engagement in Vietnam is at stake.
I'm with you!
Kerry's been a senator for how many years? And yet this issue never came up during any of his Senate campaigns? (Didn't at least one of the Swift Boat vets actually speak favorably of Kerry during a previous Senate campaign?)
However, note that I totally agree with you that they are not trying to get President Bush reelected. They are trying to make sure that Kerry doesn't get elected. President Bush's reelection would be a secondary result.
And it's not surprising that Thurlow's bravery never made it into the after-action reports, authored by none other than John Kerry. Of course, it was hard for JFK to witness Thurlow's actions, since he was high-tailing it down the river, out of harm's way (after causing that Green Beret to fall overboard). BTW, someone needs to examine the connection between Rassmman and Kerry. Here's a guy who just conveniently popped up at the start of a Presidential campaign and sticks by Kerry's preferred version of events, despite refutation by a number of witnesses. There are lots of accusations that the Swifties were "bought" by GOP donors, but no one bothers to ask why that handful of veterans stand stubbornly by JFK. Most of the pro-Kerry group don't appear to be particularly successful or propserous, so you've got to wonder who was really bought and sold....
That's fine, and as I've noted twice elsewhere on this thread, the main goal is to set the record straight about Kerry's service. But... common sense indicates that if they want to really sock it to Kerry (as someone else noted, payback is a b*tch), they're going to do it when it will most strongly affect him, and that might just be when he's running in a tight campaign for POTUS. And common-sense wise, which campaign is more likely to be negatively impacted? I doubt these guys lack for common sense.
Rephrasing a point I made earlier: if all they have to gain is a factual account of John Kerry's service in Vietnam and in particular, a clearer picture of his minimal action under hostile circumstances (which didn't merit commendations for valor), then to appear motivated only by that high regard for truth, they should have done this prior to Kerry's nomination as the Democratic candidate for POTUS. Because they have timed it as they have timed it, then many people could perceive that one of their motivations is to affect the election. And when they run most of the ads in swing states (rather than a more general canvassing of the entire U.S.) that helps strengthen an incorrect perception of their motivation(s).
That's stated about as clearly as I can.
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Watch Rassmann's body language. I'm convinced that he knows he's not telling the truth and nothing but the truth. I understand that he's on the sKerry campaign payroll.
1) His presidential nomination
The Swiftees were uninvolved in politics (and even moderately supportive of him against some charges) but only as long as he remained nothing more than just one of a hundred senators. His shooting for the CiC job changed everything.
2) His biography
Sometime earlier this year, as part of his campaign, Brinkley's biography of kerry was released. Once it was, they could see just how badly he had distorted/fabricated his Vietnam service with them.
I heard "Cut & Run" Kerry was gone for at least 5 minutes.
I agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, I think that more people might believe them if this wasn't occurring in the context of the Presidential election, because it makes an important issue into the appearance of just more "dirty politics". Hopefully, the right number of people will believe them and realize Kerry's Vietnam service record isn't a criterion on which the choice of CiC/POTUS in 2004 should be based, which is the snake oil the Kerry campaign has been trying to sell.
I have heard O'Neill state in interviews that he has been approached many times during previous Kerry campaigns to speak out against Kerry. He had always stayed out of it before but that the position of Commander in Chief changed the stakes.
Well, that essentially reinforces my point. Thanks.
Excellent point, Sister.
Doc
I told my mother last week that this thing had legs. One week later its kicked up in third gear. She is so dosmayed that Kerry is ahead in the polls. I said "Mom, Dukakis was ahead by 17 points at this time in 1988. Gore was ahead by 5 at Labor Day. Kerry is just starting to swirl the drain. In November you will be hearing the glug-glug sound when the toilet has completed the flush cycle."
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