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China ‘at the Edge’ of Financial Crisis: Central Bank Governor
The Epoch Times ^ | 08/17/04 | N/A

Posted on 08/18/2004 6:58:47 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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1 posted on 08/18/2004 6:58:49 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Ping!


2 posted on 08/18/2004 7:00:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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We'd best be very vigilant.

Such a crisis may well drive them to action. With such a totalitarian regime they have will to have something external for the people to focus on as opposed to their own inernal problems.

3 posted on 08/18/2004 7:03:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Such a crisis may well drive them to action....

Can you imagine the number of bill collectors they can send, to collect that US $169BILLION debt?

4 posted on 08/18/2004 7:07:17 AM PDT by pageonetoo ( Rights, what rights? This is Amerika!)
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“China’s use of the stock market to finance its state-owned enterprises has made it a financing tool that tilts in their favor,” Wu said.

He said the state used such tactics as giving out news to stimulate the market, restricting the number of investors, and splitting shares to inflate the issue price of companies that have privilege of forfeiture so they can raise funds from floating shareholders.

“By doing so, they have turned our stock market into a huge administrative factory that lacks investment value,” Wu said.

(snicker) How different is this from the way our stock market operates? (i.e. PPT, automatic trading, etc.) One thing is for sure...if China goes down economically, we go down as well; be it for a short period of time or longer...depending on how long we can find another cheap labor/cheap currency plaza nation to buy all the cheap stuff at Walmart. Something tells me the central planners in Bejing will not let this happen.

5 posted on 08/18/2004 7:08:01 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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Problem is...they will be collecting from Taiwan, Burma, the South China Sea, etc.

Our part will be in a bloody fight to contain them should they decide they can stand to lose a few million of their young men who have no hope for marrying anyway. In order to deflect blame and unrest from the financial crisis, they very well could send their fodder to the meatgrinder.

6 posted on 08/18/2004 7:09:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Such a crisis may well drive them to action.

It's almost like the scenario from Tom Clancy's novel The Bear and the Dragon.

7 posted on 08/18/2004 7:14:48 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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depending on how long we can find another cheap labor/cheap currency plaza nation to buy all the cheap stuff at Walmart. Something tells me the central planners in Bejing will not let this happen.

For once we'll be happy to hear the word, "India." Their labor is cheap, so our toys will remain cheap. Meanwhile, China will have to grow up and learn some Western ways, such as business ETHICS! India was developed by the British, hence they are miles ahead of the Chinese when it comes to Western banking practices, etc.

8 posted on 08/18/2004 7:16:09 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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Even a close fit to the one here in The Dragon's Fury.

...which I began writing 3 1/2 years ago.

9 posted on 08/18/2004 7:16:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Such a crisis may well drive them to action

Yep, a double edged sword. If they have a strong economy they build more weapons, if it collapses they could strike out.

It seems that communist agrarian/hand labor economies just can't survivie.

10 posted on 08/18/2004 7:17:46 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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WHat is scary is that Asian countries such as China own alot of the US's debt. If they start to view us as a "bad credit risk" the manure will hit the wind moving machine.


11 posted on 08/18/2004 7:20:53 AM PDT by redgolum
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Our part will be in a bloody fight to contain them should they decide they can stand to lose a few million of their young men ..

Indeed, how are we going to live without all of the Chinese Buffets that have proliferated here? Is this part of their master plan, do you think?

12 posted on 08/18/2004 7:25:49 AM PDT by pageonetoo ( Rights, what rights? This is Amerika!)
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Our debt isn't a risk, it's their debt.


13 posted on 08/18/2004 7:27:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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We may be very surprised, should the ballons go up, what would happen here in the CONUS.

I am afraid we would find out just how many sleepers and sappers we have within the perimeter.

14 posted on 08/18/2004 7:28:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: 1Old Pro

Hmm, I suppose I need to read the article again. But that does bring a question, how are they buying some of our debt if they are in trouble themselves?


15 posted on 08/18/2004 7:29:40 AM PDT by redgolum
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how are they buying some of our debt if they are in trouble themselves?

They invest in our debt with their "safe" money.

16 posted on 08/18/2004 7:31:05 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: TigerLikesRooster

For over a year in class I have been talking with students about whether China is a bubble waiting to pop. If everyone knew for sure that it was, it never would have become a bubble in the first place, so it's an interesting problem.


17 posted on 08/18/2004 7:32:32 AM PDT by untenured
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Hate to seem like a novice (in macro economics at this scale I am) but what is safe money?


18 posted on 08/18/2004 7:34:31 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If we all stopped buying Chinese goods for 30 days would it bring them down?


19 posted on 08/18/2004 7:35:40 AM PDT by NorseWood
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Their conservative rather than speculative funds.


20 posted on 08/18/2004 7:37:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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