Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
Yep. I don't think reparations is a good at all. Just look at the reactions on this thread, not counting the deleted posts either.
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I think you've forgotten the original statement that led to this discussion. Non-Sequitur said "Giving benefits to people for actions done before they were born and which did not materially affect them ...". If you think blacks are not materially effected by the fact that their ancestors were slaves then why is this subject even under discussion? What basis is there for them to buy into reparations or any other inequality argument? The very fact that blacks are self-victimizing subjects of the Jesse Jacksons and Sharptons is a result of slavery. Slavery created the conditions that made this game possible.
Do you reject the idea of reparations in principle?
Did the Jews, as victims of the Nazis, deserve reparations from the German people?
I can't reject the idea of reparations in principle, but I can see that in practice terrible dangers exist.
Why are you changing the subject? Can't answer my question?
I don't feel any guilt either, but your post suggests that black enjoyed the same freedoms as whites right after slavery when you know that's just not true. My family came here with nothing and made some thing because they worked hard that's true but you can't deny the level of racial discrimination that black people had to face in this country.
I don't know, but NO TAXES for two generations sounds pretty damn conservative to me. I'd like reparations for all the blood and treasure squandered during the Johnson administration's failed War on Poverty.
Hopefully the discussion will be used as a springboard to discuss the income tax in general. There are too much taxes already.
However, being a magnanimous individual, I propose we give the descendents of slaves the same deal my ancestors got...
My slogan will be "Reservations, not Reparations!"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Jesse couldn't make this argument. It's based on personal accountability and there is no generations long follow up program like Johnson set up. One and DONE!
Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes
Why did you even ask the question? Can't read?
If anyone knows the conditions of some reservations esp. ones like Pine Ridge, that's about as good an idea as reparations.
So why aren't the Irish in the same boat? The Welsh coal miners? They were all used as slaves when they came here. Why are they not victims? Did they not bleed?
They were indentured servant who were white.
No Taxes is a great idea as long as it isn't for any specific group. It's either for all, or for none.
But, the idea of no federal taxes whatsoever DOES concern me, as we do need to pay for those few limited duties the government should be performing - i.e. defending the country, and delivering the mail...
Yes it seems that way doesn't it? At least according to the DNC machine lock-step rags in Chicago.
Did the Jews, as victims of the Nazis, deserve reparations from the German people?
The Jews certainly deserved reparations for the Nazi atrocities; Japanese-Americans also deserved reparations for what happened to them.
But there is not one single slave left alive to whom reparations should and would be paid to as a result of the legal practice of slavery in the United States.
And I will not visit upon the population of the US punishment for the "sins of the fathers."
There is right and wrong: this concept is wrong.
Exactly!
Without seeing a transcript of what Alan Keyes said, I have to agree with your suspicion until proven otherwise. Keyes is an intelligent man and knows that not all blacks in the U.S. are descended from slaves, that free blacks owned slaves, and that the last slaves held in the U.S. were freed in June 1865, nearly 140 years ago.
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