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Keyes has plans for reparations
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/17/04 | Allison Benedikt and David Mendell

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

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To: TigersEye

bttt


141 posted on 08/17/2004 7:14:14 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: malakhi

So is any tax on income. Pick your poison. I'm telling you people, Keyes is using this "divisive" approach for a reason--it highlights injustice.

What if we passed a law that only black embryonic stem cells could be destroyed for research?

What if only black women could have abortions?

What if gun control only applied to the black community?

None of these statements conflict with the effect of today's (liberal) reality but it does put things in a different light, no?


142 posted on 08/17/2004 7:14:28 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

I respect Keyes a lot but he should not have accepted a nomination toa state he does not live in. This is a farce and a good man is being misused by the GOP.


143 posted on 08/17/2004 7:14:33 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer
"Obama will have to defend a position, a left position."

Obama - "I'm glad my opponent understands and agrees with the justice of and need for reparations to the black community. However, I find his proposal is not feasible, however, let's look at the plan proposed by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Kwezi Mfumi..."

Keyes just squeezed a tube of toothpaste all over the counter and it ain't going back in the tube anytime soon..

144 posted on 08/17/2004 7:16:59 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: harrycarey

I have no problem with Michael Jordan keeping the money he earns. Tax what he spends his wealth on. He'll still be giving more of his cash to the government than any of us.


145 posted on 08/17/2004 7:17:08 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Bob J
It already came from Jesse, and Rev Al, Farrakhan and their likes. How can they now go back and say Keyes is wrong? How can they defend his hand up idea vs. their usual hand out program? 40 acres and a mule, the tools to build your freedom in 1865. More disposable income, the tools of the 21st century.
146 posted on 08/17/2004 7:18:09 AM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer (Keyes is Making Sense, Obama is Making Excuses.)
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To: cyborg
"Why? Are you threatened by such a discussion?"

No, I'm insulted by it and Keyes giving it legitimacy is the dumbest thing I've seen him do.

147 posted on 08/17/2004 7:18:55 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Callahan

Fine. Just give me the same deal.


148 posted on 08/17/2004 7:19:06 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: harrycarey

The great society was a handout, not a tax break. You guys are forgetting that Keyes wants to throw virtually every federal program out the window.


149 posted on 08/17/2004 7:19:08 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

http://www.renewamerica.us/show/transcripts/02_03_27akims.htm


150 posted on 08/17/2004 7:19:39 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Destro
This is a farce and a good man is being misused by the GOP.

Have you read his reasons for accepting this nomination? U.S. Senate candidacy announcement for Illinois

"And on those occasions, I listened, as I always try to do, politely, and I told them no.

And I told them no for a number of reasons. First, as I will talk to you about, because I actually have a clear and serious objection, in principle, to the notion that people of national reputation have the right to go around this country, cherry-picking the states as platforms for their ambition. I do. I have said it repeatedly, it's not a good thing to be done.

I'm a strong believer in state sovereignty and in the rights of the people of the states."


151 posted on 08/17/2004 7:19:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: areafiftyone
I notice Keyes has been bringing the issue of slavery up too much lately. He is trying to out Obama on the slavery issue as far as their ancestors are concerned and now this??? What about the issues? The important issues. Keyes needs to stick to the issues.

I think that Keyes is being pretty slick with this proposal. First, he wants to inspire some original thinking among the followers of the civil rights movement. Second, he wants to demonstrate that the people doing the most b*tching about slave reparations really have no idea what they are talking about, because when they total up the tax break it will be a net loss (not EITC). Finally, the size of the total size of the tax break would be small since lower income people pay little in the way of federal taxes to begin with.

This whole exercise is a sub rosa economics lesson disguised as a moral argument.

152 posted on 08/17/2004 7:20:45 AM PDT by Tallguy (If Clinton did a good job stopping the Millenium Bomber, I've got 2 Towers in NYC to sell you...)
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To: Aquinasfan

This is interesting. Very interesting, and clever. I'm not so sure he hasn't out-clevered himself on this suggestion, though. The pro-reparations crowd won't be satisfied with this (they want nothing less than Uncle Sugar crawling, begging on his hands and knees for forgiveness, with a huge check) and a lot of Keyes supporters will be turned off by it.

Still, it's a very interesting idea. Impractical as hell, but with some pretty fascinating ramifications. (And a GREAT debate here on this thread. Threads like this are the best reason to join FR!)

}:-)4


153 posted on 08/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by Moose4 (I've got two Viking Kittens locked and loaded, and I'm not afraid to use 'em. Back off!)
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To: Tallguy

I hope so.


154 posted on 08/17/2004 7:22:23 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Bob J

Why should you be insulted? How is even discussing reparations an insult? I find the knee jerk reactions more insulting rather than a discussion, for and against reparations in a rational manner. Obama has discussed reparations before, and Keyes is just countering him and all of the freepers getting angry fell for the liberal kool aid.


155 posted on 08/17/2004 7:22:32 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm not sure Rome did that..
I'm not sure Dr. Keyes said that..
It certainly doesn't sound like him.

I'd like to see another source.

156 posted on 08/17/2004 7:23:14 AM PDT by evad (You cannot start with a false premise and arrive at a valid conclusion)
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To: harrycarey

Of course, you give anything to live under that kind of system because you could control how much you are taxed. That's why it will be so funny when the black political class rejects this idea in favor of welfare and section 8 housing.


157 posted on 08/17/2004 7:23:47 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Destro
"This is a farce and a good man is being misused by the GOP."

Baloney. Keyes is still in the hole several hundred thousand dollars from his last campaign (someone told me there is a lien on his home, don't know if this is true). IMHO, the GOP told Keyes to go up to Illinois, make Obama squirm some, and he could use some of the donations collected on this faux campaign to pay off all his old campaign debts. Strictly a quid pro quo.

158 posted on 08/17/2004 7:24:02 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: MamaTexan

Yea, but my family had 50! I want my tax relief! (WHINE):)


159 posted on 08/17/2004 7:25:22 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: yall

bttt


160 posted on 08/17/2004 7:25:22 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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